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  To: Nick Andre
  Re: Re: BBS'ing
  By: Nick Andre to Andre Robitaille on Fri Jun 03 2022 06:12 pm

 > On 03 Jun 22  13:51:13, Andre Robitaille said the following to Nick Andre:
 >
 > AR>  NA> I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area,
 > AR>  NA> ever.
 >
 > AR> There were only a few boards in my small town, and mine was WWIV because
 > AR> yo could buy the source. My friend had Hermes (WWIV mac clone), and I
 > AR> was alwa jealous of the much better configuration system. But having
 > AR> access to bette doors and WWIVNet gave me a huge advantage.
 >
 > I heard the source of WWIV was available, pretty sure thats what influenced
 > Renegade and some others. Mark Hoffman I believe still runs Wwivnet? I
 > helped him add the INTL kludge to Netmail.
 >

telegard was one of many wwiv hacks and the developer's friend copied the tg
2.5g source and leaked it and that's how you got the early versions of
renegade.

this leak was a malicious act because the guy who stole it liked TAG and
wanted tg to end.  what happenen is the code for tg just got better, and the
guy said that cott lang found a few backdoors in it which got removed.
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