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   From: rmck@yatestownbc.com   
      
   "Canuck57"  wrote in message   
   news:9g0Dn.157749$NH1.128019@newsfe14.iad...   
   > On 01/05/2010 2:22 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote:   
   >> "Canuck57"  wrote in message   
   >> news:x6%Cn.108248$iL1.93627@newsfe24.iad...   
   >>> On 30/04/2010 8:10 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote:   
   >>>> "Mr.Smartypants"   wrote in message   
   >>>> news:b960a5a2-47e5-4561-be5e-a43eaa293651@k17g2000pro.googlegroups.com...   
   >>>> On Apr 30, 1:19 pm, Greg Carr   wrote:   
   >>>>> I signed the anti HST petition yesterday in front of Richard T. Lee's   
   >>>>> constituency office at Willingdon and Halifax St in Burnaby. Their   
   >>>>> were approx 60 ppl in line and several ppl waving placards. Some ppl   
   >>>>> had to be turned away because they were only taking signatures for ppl   
   >>>>> who live in Bby ridings and the ppl lived in Vancouver and Coquitlam.   
   >>>>> The placard wavers garnered many honks of support from passing   
   >>>>> motorists. Many ppl were signed up.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> My thanks to the person who posted the link to ant-HST events which is   
   >>>>> how I found out about this sign up.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That was prolly done by your buddy Yardley   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Looking forward to the referendum.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What referendum?  There's no compulsory need to set one on part of the   
   >>>> government.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Won't be one.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Might as well bounce into recall, and then go after the NDP and ask   
   >>>> them   
   >>>> point blank what they intend to do about the HST if they   
   >>>> are elected? Do they keep it, or repeal it? If they keep it, tell the   
   >>>> NDP   
   >>>> MLA or candidate, you'll set off a recall because the NDP   
   >>>> was originally against the HST (voted against it in the Legislature)   
   >>>> and   
   >>>> now   
   >>>> they're for it.   
   >>>   
   >>> You know the NDP would lie their asses off then reneg once they were in.   
   >>> Tehy too have had their share of BS in the past.   
   >>   
   >> No shit, Sherlock. But not as bad as the BC Liberals.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Best to look towards a independant, someone that isn't backed by big   
   >>> money   
   >>> and a hidden agenda.  Or maybe a new party with the specific charge to   
   >>> go   
   >>> clean up the waste, lower taxes and get the governemtn to live inside   
   >>> it's   
   >>> means.   
   >>   
   >> As far as independents go, it wouldn't work. 45 independent voices would   
   >> mean nothing would get done.   
   >   
   > And no new taxes. ;)   
      
   Don't be too sure about that. Taxes come and go, having independents would   
   not mean an absolute abolition of any new taxes.   
      
      
   >   
   > But out of the mess, a new party will form as alliances are made.   
      
   Been down that road. All that would do is further seperate and stagnate   
   goverment, also opens the barn door for "deals".   
      
   > Sometimes having a minority or dead locked government is a good thing as   
   > the last thing the leder wants to do is face an election on taxing people   
   > even more.   
      
   Minority governments have passed tax initatives.   
      
   >> As far as new parties go, we've been down that road before so many times   
   >> there's ruts in the asphalt. The BC Conservatives (Chris Delaney) were   
   >> originally for the HST, now they aren't.   
   >   
   > Sure sign of a opporunistic ass hole, flip-flop.  Means he has no morals   
   > or conviction.   
      
   Just like vanderZalm. He brought in the Property Transfer Tax without any   
   consultation and you're still paying it when you buy a previously owned   
   home.   
      
   >>> Excesive taxation is modern days slavery.   
   >>   
   >> Partially true, but those taxes pay for your sewage pipes, the fire   
   >> department, your roads, your police, etc. etc.   
   >   
   > For the small percentage that actually makes it to these common essential   
   > services, yes, that part is good.  But that is only the small part.   
      
   Also pays for highways bridges, a large amount of big stuff.   
      
   > People date not take a rational look at their governments budget, they   
   > might get very surprised where the money really goes.   
      
   I've seen where the money comes from and goes.   
      
      
   >>> Are we being heard or are we a herd?   
   >>   
   >> Both. Depends on what kind of animal you are.   
   >   
   > Voters are not heard in this country, they are a herd of tax paying sheep.   
      
   Well if you have a workable solution that's been tried successfully in other   
   countries, we'd love to hear it, and better yet put it as a policy   
   suggestion   
   to one of the major parties. You'll never see any parliament with 100%   
   independents anywhere in the Commonwealth.   
      
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