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   From: anon@anon.anon   
      
   Rod  wrote:   
      
   > Hmmm.  I just saw this post today.  I don't know anything about Mr   
   > Selin, or that post.  Or his political party, or whatever.  However   
   > I do know that anyone who comes into conflict with police in Canada   
   > can expect those mean-spirited bastards (generally referred to as   
   > "police") to employ some VERY SLIMY tactics.  (Like the above.)   
      
   Really, eh? Canada?   
      
   > No, when I get drunk I get naked and run through town.   
      
   One is all you get.   
      
   > I know a great deal about how Toronto police operate.  I know they   
   > are the most dishonest bunch of meat-head law-breaking cocksuckers   
   > I've ever run across.  I've never in my entire life encountered a   
   > more dishonest group of people.  They routinely break the law, in   
   > many different ways.  Deceit is extremely common.  Furthermore,   
   > there is dishonesty at *every* level on that force, from constable   
   > to detectives to inspectors to superintendent(s) to the chief.  And   
   > I would never hesitate to make these allegation in ANY public forum,   
   > because I could PROVE that ALL of the allegations and comments in   
   > this post are sincere and true.   
      
   I don't wanna go to jail!   
      
   > Anyone who is not aware of how police in this country actually   
   > operate would likely be shocked to learn about it.  I don't think   
   > the Toroto police service is the only corrupt police force in   
   > Canada, in fact I know it isn't.  But Toronto police are certainly   
   > THE most corrupt.  I would even go so far as to allege that they are   
   > probably the most corrupt police force in North America, *including*   
   > Mexico.  I cannot imagine Mexican cops - these days - being as bad,   
   > in terms of dishonesty.   
      
   Why do you feed the troll?   
      
   > I mean deceit is *routine*.  And it is not only happily tolerated by   
   > senior staff - meaning inspectors and superintendents and the chief   
   > - but officers at that senior level are DISHONEST themselves.  This   
   > I could prove.  The senior officers are the ones who are supposed to   
   > keep the goons in line, and ensure integrity, but they don't do   
   > their jobs. They are incompetent.  Integrity on that force is   
   > completely absent.   
      
   Are you trying to say deceit is *routine*?   
      
   > I mean this is shocking, to me, that Canada's largest city   
   > (supposedly a great city) has utterly CORRUPT police, extremely   
   > dishonest, but given the general apathy and brainlessness in   
   > Toronto, most people are content to have that be the case.   
      
   I have no idea about that but I can tell you don't start a new thread.   
      
   > I don't know why any judge would believe ANYTHING a member of the   
   > Toronto police service said in court.  Maybe it's because many of   
   > the judges are stupid, or also have little or no integrity.  I could   
   > easily prove that, as well.  Both stupidity and lack of integrity.   
      
   I just escaped from jail.   
      
   > I know that smear jobs on people who are unhappy with their conduct   
   > are routine.  It is illegal; it is known as defamation; it's an   
   > indictable offence, but it doesn't stop them from doing it.  I have   
   > been a target of their bullshit, so I know.   
      
   I've seen what it's all about.   
      
   > Defamation is one of their favorite slimy tactics, in fact.  Failure   
   > to properly investigate (or investigate at all) is another slimy   
   > tactic. Brutality and threats, including DEATH threats, are another   
   > slimy tactic they employ.  And I could name many more.   
      
   Your zipper is down.   
      
   > You can end with the feeling that it's actually quite DANGEROUS   
   > going up against those assholes, since it's akin to dealing with   
   > Tony Soprano and his very law-abiding crew.  Let me give you an   
   > example.   
      
   THAT's useless.   
      
   > Consider: kidnapped from your home, in the middle of the night, no   
   > warrant, at gunpoint, by least a dozen masked goons (so-called   
   > "police", but in reality gangsters), with *many* guns pointed at   
   > you, when they have no desire to lay even ONE criminal charge, and   
   > you are never charged with anything.  That is TORONTO POLICE   
   > CONDUCT.  I've personally experienced that.  That's when you realize   
   > they want you DEAD.  And why would that be?   
      
   What do you want to be in reality for?   
      
   > Maybe it's just because you have extensive personal, first-hand   
   > knowledge of their very illegal conduct.  Conduct that given a fair   
   > society, would put a cop in a penitentiary for at least several   
   > years. If it all came to light, and the public learned about it all,   
   > it could prove very embarrassing to them.  I mean, the laying of   
   > literally dozens of criminal charges against police would be   
   > required.  The easier way to clean it up is just KILL the   
   > complainant.   
      
   Why do you mean the laying of literally dozens of criminal charges   
   against police would be required?   
      
   > They were trying to antagonize me into reacting so they could shoot   
   > me dead, but unfortunately that did not work out for them.  Because   
   > I kept my cool.  I think any skilled lawyer could fairly easily   
   > manage to persuade an intelligent jury that that late-night visit to   
   > my home constituted an attempt on my life, or ATTEMPTED MURDER.   
   > Because there was NO legal issue to pursue.  But of course if your   
   > integrity is at the level of the notorious Russian NKVD - Stalin's   
   > goons - then you don't worry too much about breaking the law.   
   > Judges rarely ever hold them to account.  Police board doesn't hold   
   > them to account. Newspapers don't report on it.  They get to   
   > investigate themselves. So...why should they worry about it?  Why   
   > should they even hesitate to use ILLEGAL tactics against   
   > complainants?   
      
   Yeblan. Zjelob.   
      
   > I know I have more integrity in my little finger than there is in   
   > the entire Toronto so-called police force.  A lot more.   
      
   I've turned into the kind of person I'd never be friends with.   
      
   > It has all been done to me, so I know.  You name it, it's been done   
   > to me.  Accusing people of being "mentally ill" is perhaps the most   
   > common smear tactic police use against their critics.  But it's just   
   > "psycho-politics".  It is a truly cowardly way of trying to evade   
   > responsibility.  Very illegal, but also very cowardly.  Defamation   
   > is an indictable offence.  Parliament made it a criminal offence,   
   > with a maximum penalty of five years behind bars in a penitentiary,   
   > to acknowlege that a lot of HARM can be done to people with words   
   > that are NOT true.  I know about that harm.  I have personally   
   > experienced it.   
      
   Shit! It's the pigs!   
      
   > The truly psychotic people are in fact THE COPS, who elect to   
   > believe things that are NOT true, and which bear NO connection to   
   > reality. That is one of the rough definitions of mental illness.   
   > Failure to be plugged into *reality*.  I could likely prove in a   
   > court of law that they are mentally ill - because they have elected   
   > believe all sorts of fanciful fairy tales - but they could not do   
   > the same when it came to me.  Their allegations about me have all   
   > been just BULLSHIT, and defamatory, and very ILLEGAL, but fact is,   
      
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