XPost: bc.politics, van.general, vic.general
From: Canuck57@nospam.com
On 27/05/2010 12:07 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote:
> "Canuck57" wrote in message
> news:SztLn.21245$HG1.18525@newsfe21.iad...
>> On 27/05/2010 5:54 AM, Robert MacKenzie wrote:
>>> wrote in message
>>> news:KqhLn.92721$0M5.15400@newsfe07.iad...
>>>> Yes ! Point Grey is a wealthy neighbourhood of people who could
>>>> probably
>>>> afford paying more taxes - moreso than 90% of the rest of the Province,
>>>> but even THEY are fed up. Good on you, Point-Grey residents. Two more
>>>> ridings to go, and it's done.
>>>> Then we see if Campbell and his dogs dare to defy the voters on having a
>>>> GST referendum - and killing the HST.
>>>
>>> The HST will stay. You should now go after the NDP to ensure that they
>>> repeal it as a condition
>>> of their becoming government, as the BC Liberals will not get rid of the
>>> HST.
>>
>> NDP repeal taxes, LMAO. No way to enforce that as a condition either.
>> BCers need a new party. Start by voting in lots of independent types
>> which signals you want a better choice than the Lib or NDP.
>
> Alot of good that will do. You'll initially have 85 individual and
> independent voices which will appeal to persons like yourself, but
> over time a few of those "indpendent voices" will congeal into a group to
> vote together on something as a majority to get something
> passed that the other independent voices don't like, so they will congeal
> into a group of opposition.
Tehy will congeal in so long as they can do what is best for their
riding. If not they might be pounding pavement the next election.
> and just who decides who is responsible for what Ministry? One independent
> voice on his own cannot decide to take over one
> Ministry because he has an interest in that Ministry's subject without
> consideration of the others.
They can decide collectively. Have a run off election amongst
themselves. You don't have to be an expert to lead or run an effective
department. Good people can learn quick.
> Then there's leadership. Who exactly brings these 85 "independent voices"
> together?
What leadership do we get today? Civil servants say we need mor emoney
and MP/MLA just screws the people for it.
Maybe a real leader will arise as they haven't been hand picked for
alternative reasons.
> Sounds good in the context of right wing libertarian thinking, but not
> particularly practical. Even the Libertarian Candidates themselves
> are not individual independently voiced candidates, 100%. At some point they
> agreed to a commonality of direction when it comes to
> policy.
I am game to try it as what we have is corrupt and isn't worth keeping.
> Reminds me of the Civic Independents that featured Mike Harcourt, but that
> so-called "civic independents" group was hardly a
> group of si people with absolute individual independent voices or
> positioning within the politics of the City of Vancouver.
>
> As for the NDP, there is.
>
> It's quite simple. You tell them:
>
> "Either set your policies to repeal the HST or you're not getting the
> support it will take to become government (or NDP for this riding)"
No, you turf the idiots as they have lied to you so many times in the
past you would be an utter fool not to think they wouldn't lie again,
and again and again.
Parties are about stacking the deck against democracy. Use money to
bribe, buy and influene the 2 or 3 top leaders and you win control of
the governemnt no mater how people vote.
Our governments are morally, ethically and financially bankrupt. We
need to find a way for them to stop screwing us.
--
I would rather be a paid up Conservative nut job than a Liberal with no
nuts, no job in debt and living off of other people like a leach.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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