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|    msakewitz@gmail.com to Greg Carr    |
|    Re: Hell's Angels (1/5)    |
|    16 Jan 14 22:05:46    |
      On Friday, November 1, 2013 1:34:30 PM UTC-7, Greg Carr wrote:       > Do the B.C. Hells Angels have a shot at getting the courts to throw out        >        > the province’s civil forfeiture law?       >        >        >        > Simon Fraser University criminal law expert David MacAlister thinks it        >        > may be possible.       >        >        >        > The constitutional rights of the seven men connected to the East End        >        > Chapter that filed the suit Tuesday may be violated because a lower        >        > burden of proof is required in civil forfeiture cases compared to their        >        > legal counterparts, said MacAlister.       >        >        >        > “If the outcomes are the same, then presumably the due process        >        > safeguards should be the same,” MacAlister said. “Because you’ve got the        >        > same sort of seriousness of penalty, the effect of sentence is the same,        >        > the stigma attached to having your property forfeited is the same.       >        >        >        > “Therefore, the Crown should be forced to go through the same hoops        >        > regardless of whether we’re talking about the federal (criminal) law or        >        > provincial (civil) law.”       >        >        >        > The Hells Angels launched its counterclaim Tuesday to a suit by the CFO        >        > last fall to seize Hells Angels’ clubhouses in East Vancouver and        >        > Kelowna. Hells Angels’ lawyer Joe Arvay said the government has been        >        > going after clubhouses owned by the gang, even though they haven’t been        >        > able to prove in a B.C. court that the Hells Angels is a criminal        >        > organization.       >        >        >        > B.C.’s Civil Forfeiture Office (CFO) was created seven years ago to        >        > “take away the profit motive” for criminals and has since seized about        >        > $40 million worth of property, goods and cash, including more than $8.4        >        > million last year, according to its director, Phil Tawtel.       >        >        >        > Forfeited items include properties housing marijuana grow operations,        >        > vehicles, helicopters, boats and large quantities of cash obtained from        >        > drug trafficking, he said in an emailed statement.       >        >        >        > To date, the “extremely successful” office has seized property in almost        >        > half of its 1,400 cases and decided to not go ahead with about 370 other        >        > cases forwarded by police across the province, Tawtel said. Most of its        >        > 510 ongoing cases are tied to drug activity and the vast majority        >        > involve wads of $10,000 in cash or less.       >        >        >        > Since 2007, the government has used the Civil Forfeiture Act to go after        >        > Hells Angels’ assets in Nanaimo, East Vancouver and Kelowna, including        >        > the three clubhouses.       >        >        >        > This week, the CFO filed another lawsuit going after the assets of a        >        > Kelowna business that police allege was a “chop shop” used by the Hells        >        > Angels and other biker gangs.       >        >        >        > A lawsuit was filed in B.C. Supreme Court last week against Kelowna’s        >        > Cycle Logic and its owner John Edward Newcome, alleging his business        >        > “was an automotive chop shop for the purposes of storing, processing,        >        > trafficking and selling stolen vehicles.”       >        >        >        > The government wants $750,000 worth of property seized in a police raid        >        > in August 2012 forfeited and sold, with the proceeds going into the        >        > Civil Forfeiture account.       >        >        >        > Newcome is facing a series of charges including possession of stolen        >        > property and trafficking in stolen property. He is next in Kelowna        >        > Provincial Court Oct. 11.       >        >        >        > At the time of his arrest, Kelowna RCMP said Cycle Logic was involved in        >        > modifying vehicle identification numbers on stolen vehicles, trailers        >        > and machinery and then reselling them.       >        >        >        > And police said members of Nanaimo Hells Angels and Throttle Locker        >        > biker gang worked at Cycle Logic and that HA members from Nanaimo and        >        > Calgary were seen there.       >        >        >        > Newcome has not yet filed a response to the government’s claim, which        >        > lists dozens of motorcycles and parts seized including Harley Davidsons,        >        > Yamahas and Suzukis.       >        >        >        > The civil forfeiture lawsuit makes no mention of the Hells Angels or any        >        > other gang.       >        >        >        > The new Hells Angels suit alleges the Civil Forfeiture Act is being        >        > misused to go after assets as “instruments of criminal activity” even        >        > when police have insufficient evidence to support charges.       >        >        >        > “Civil forfeiture laws allow the government to do indirectly what it        >        > cannot do directly, and that is, to prove crimes without affording to        >        > those most directly affected all of the basic protections that the        >        > criminal law and process properly requires,” Arvay said Tuesday.       >        >        >        > “In our view, this legislation is beyond the powers of the provincial        >        > legislature and contrary to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.”       >        >        >        > In November 2012, the director of civil forfeiture went to court to        >        > seize the East End and Kelowna clubhouses, naming 21 Hells Angels in        >        > both chapters as defendants in the action.       >        >        >        > “The East End HAMC clubhouse and the Kelowna HAMC clubhouse have been        >        > used to engage in unlawful activities,” the suit claimed, including a        >        > list of offences such as production, importing and trafficking cocaine,        >        > pot and methamphetamine; assaults; uttering threats; extortion; and        >        > “committing manslaughter or murder.”       >        >        >        > After news of the counterclaim broke Tuesday, B.C. Justice Minister        >        > Suzanne Anton said, “The Supreme Court of Canada has upheld the        >        > constitutionality of civil forfeiture laws in Canada.”       >        >        >        > She said the CFO “must convince a B.C. Supreme Court judge that        >        > forfeiture should be ordered in any contested case.”       >        >        >        > The federal Supreme Court’s ruling only addressed the ability of each        >        > province to enact their own civil forfeiture laws and not the        >        > constitutionality of such laws, MacAlister said.       >        >        >        > “This case seems to go to the next level, and say, ‘OK, just because the        >        > province has the power to enact these laws, where do we go from there?’        >        > in terms of looking at them and seeing if there are some other grounds        >        > for challenging them,” MacAlister said. “It doesn’t matter if you’re a        >        > Hells Angel, you’re a mafia boss or an alleged terrorist, your rights        >        > are your rights and they apply equally to you, regardless of what kind        >        > of crimes you’re accused of committing.       >        >        >        > “If it just so happens that it takes a Hells Angels case to get this        >        > issue addressed before the courts, well then, that’s what happens.”       >        >        >        >        >               [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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