XPost: can.politics, van.general   
   From: invalid@invalid.ca   
      
   Nobody wrote:   
   > JM wrote:   
   >   
   >> pøliticoÃYoy wrote:   
   >>> . . . Setting the pattern for any oil spills that might occur   
   >>> in future. Certainly can't rely on the Harper government for   
   >>> any help -   
   >>> unless it's to close the very Coast Guard stations that   
   >>> monitor these types   
   >>> of disasters.   
   >>> British Columbians were right to fear Enbridge and Kinder   
   >>> Morgan.  This was a *new* ship that fouled and contaminated   
   >>> Vancouver's beaches.  'Double hulled' be damned.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I regret this incident as much as you do. This being said, it   
   >> would help to get your facts right.   
   >> 1. The /Marathassa/ is a bulk carrier. It came to Vancouver to   
   >> load grain at one of the grain elevators in Burrard Inlet,   
   >> something that has been done for numerous years. In a previous   
   >> post, you mentioned that this ship was a "tanker", i.e. a   
   >> vessel built to carry petroleum products. Slight difference.   
   >> 2. Here you mention "double hulled". We agree that "double   
   >> hulling" will be compulsory for tankers. Do you know for a   
   >> fact that this requirement applies to bulk grain carriers   
   >> also? Personally, I have not heard anything of the sort.   
   >   
   > Double hulls are NOT required on bulk carriers.   
   > Some do have double hulls but this structural design is mostly   
   > to increase the structural and water tight integrity of the   
   > ship and prevent flooding of a bulk space should the bottom be   
   > holed.   
   > I think this vessel was classed by Lloyd's Register.   
   > More info should be available there.   
   >   
   > Just a heads up.  You were replying to the village idiot   
   > posting under one of her many nyms.  Most know her as KKKaren   
   > Gordon   
      
   I knew who I was responding to and, being a nice guy, I've tried to   
   convey a few things to her as nicely as I could. Just the facts, no   
   insults. I even said that I regretted the incident as much as she   
   did -- and it's true, very true. I've been crisscrossing English Bay,   
   Indian Arm, the strait of Georgia, Howe Sound, the Gulf Islands, the   
   Sunshine Coast, Desolation Sound, the Broughtons off Port McNeill and   
   other beautiful places in BC on a sailboat and I would be the first to   
   regret an oil spill in these waters. But I would also be the first to   
   correct anybody who would have his/her facts(*) wrong.   
      
      
   (*) Wrong facts: (1) confusion between a grain bulk carrier and a   
   tanker and (2) the "double hull" issue.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)