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|    Mr Big must be deflated to All    |
|    What that RCMP 'sting' operation cost us    |
|    28 Feb 16 12:50:06    |
      From: brewnoserii@gmail.com                      The people of British Columbia - and the rest of Canada - paid nearly a       MILLION dollars to apprehend a drug-dependent street-level couple that was       muttering about placing pipe bombs at the Legislature. Now, the entire       operation is under review, as the "       Mr Big" method of entrapping suspects is itself under investigation and review.              THIS is what happens when our 'security forces' do not have an independent       *civilian* oversight body to watch them. C'mon, Justin, that was another of       your pre-election promises . . . .       ___________________________________       The Canadian Press 02.27.2016                     RCMP racked up $900,000 in overtime during undercover anti-terrorism operation       in B.C.                     VANCOUVER — The RCMP spent just over $900,000 in overtime pay over the       course of a five-month undercover operation that led to the arrests of two       terrorism suspects in British Columbia.              Documents obtained by The Canadian Press through a freedom-of-information       request show the Mounties paid at least 200 people, mostly police officers,        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^       $911,090.54 for overtime work during the investigation, which was code named       Project Souvenir.              The operation culminated in the arrests of common-law spouses John Nuttall and       Amanda Korody on July 1, 2013. They were found guilty last summer of plotting       to blow up the B.C. legislature on that Canada Day.              Their convictions have not been entered while defence lawyers argue in B.C.       Supreme Court that the couple were manipulated by police into planting       homemade pressure-cooker bombs on the legislature grounds.              Defence counsel has described Nuttall and Korody as poor, methadone-dependent       former drug addicts, while the Crown has said they embraced a radicalized form       of Islam and were ready to kill and maim innocent people.              The court heard earlier that the operation involved more than 240 police       officers,        (>_<)       most of whom worked behind the scenes. Many were involved sporadically in the       investigation.              The bulk of the project's overtime expenses, $519,039.55, went to 100       constables involved in the case, while 30 corporals were paid $128,369.76 and       24 sergeants received $69,494.65. Records show the Vancouver Police       Department was given $92,397, though        it's unclear how that money was divided.              The overall cost of the operation was not provided. ﴾͡       ̯͡๏﴿               Without a breakdown of the number of work hours and officer ranks, it's       difficult to estimate the overall cost, given that remuneration ranges from a       starting salary of $48,000 a year for constables to $107,000 for       staff-sergeants and beyond.              A protracted investigation involving a core number of police officers is bound       to lead to an enormous bill, said Rob Gordon, a criminologist at Simon Fraser       University in Burnaby, B.C.              "Here, the concern very much is that all of this money may have been wasted       because police may have overstepped an ethical mark ... about encouraging       people to do things," Gordon said, referring to the question of whether the       couple were entrapped.              "If they're encouraging them, what was the purpose? The answer to that is,       well, to get a conviction: to show that they're doing something about       terrorism issues.              "That's a cynical view," he added.              There are more undercover operations happening today than 10 years ago, Gordon       noted, adding that the government is coming under pressure to be proactive       about terrorism and that pressure is being passed on to police agencies.              A 2014 report from Human Rights Watch focusing on the United States and titled       "Illusion of Justice" highlighted the risk of terrorism stings to vulnerable       people and to those seeking spiritual guidance.              Nuttall and Korody's lawyers have raised both of these concerns in defence of       their clients.              The RCMP declined comment on its anti-terrorism operations. Spokeswoman Julie       Gagnon said in an email the Mounties were "not in a position to offer any       information" when asked about the frequency, cost and effectiveness of these       operations in Canada.              Prof. Craig Forcese, who teaches law at the University of Ottawa, said in an       email that while the use of stings is likely on an upswing in Canada, the       infrequency of prosecutions makes it difficult to analyze trends.              In an excerpt from his book "False Security," co-authored with the University       of Toronto's Kent Roach, Forcese warns about the danger of spending finite       law-enforcement resources on nabbing the people most vulnerable to stings.              "Those persons will not always be the most intelligent, most determined and       most dangerous potential terrorists," he wrote. ((+_+))               "Put another way: directing scarce resources at low-hanging fruit may mean       fewer resources are available for more complicated, and potentially more       important, anti-terror investigations."              Money invested in elaborate undercover operations can come at the expense of       basic policing services, said ex-Mountie Rob Creasser, head of the Mounted       Police Professional Association of Canada.              Creasser described the RCMP's ongoing resource-shifting exercise as a "shell       game."              "We're robbing Peter to pay Paul," he said. "It's like, which hole in the       dike is bigger right now and we'd better plug it and hope the other ones don't       get too big at the same time.              "Justice does have a cost."       _____________________________________________________              Bumbling idiots or jihadi warriors?              http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2015/04/terror_charges_3718       983.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=620              http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/john-nuttall-amanda-kor       dy-trial-733695              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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