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|    From Clinton lovefest to Trump victory,     |
|    19 Jan 17 23:43:54    |
      XPost: alt.politics.election, us.politics.elections, alt.politic       .socialism.democratic       XPost: alt.philosophy       From: bankrupted@nytimes.com              BY LINDA ROBERTSON       lrobertson@miamiherald.com       NEW YORK -- Whiplash.              That’s the right word to describe the surreal 30-hour experience       of attending a Hillary Clinton lovefest on Independence Mall in       Philadelphia on Monday, then witnessing Donald Trump’s raucous       victory celebration inside the Hilton ballroom in midtown       Manhattan on election night.              Like a crash test dummy, America’s collective cranium was flung       violently back and forth upon impact with the most shocking       presidential election outcome of modern times.              President Donald J. Trump. First Lady Melania Trump. The White       House redecorated to resemble Versailles. The spray-tanned       leader of the free world tweeting from the Oval Office about       Miss Universe contestants or his pal Vladimir Putin. Yes, the       gusher of material for “Saturday Night Live” is going to flow       for four more years. And yes, democratic values such as decency,       fairness, opportunity and civil rights are going to be       dismantled and replaced by a con man’s platform of xenophobia,       resentment, greed and incivility.              President Obama compared Trump’s provocative, preposterous,       polarizing campaign to a “parody of a reality show.” But this is       actually happening: On Jan. 20, the first African-American       president will hand the keys not to the first female American       president, but to the first celebrity real estate mogul American       president with a brand name.              “It’s going to be a beautiful thing,” Trump said of his       administration.              “USA! USA! USA!” Trump supporters chanted at 3 a.m. Tuesday when       returns confirmed what few had imagined 17 months ago as Trump       squared off against 16 Republican rivals in what seemed to be       another compulsive publicity stunt. He had defeated Clinton in       swing state after swing state, including Florida.              His loyalists, wearing red “Make America Great Again” caps and       pink “Hot Chicks For Trump” buttons, whooped, high-fived,       clinked Heineken bottles and waved “Hispanics For Trump,”       “Bikers For Trump,” “Silent Majority For Trump” and “Deplorable       Lives Matter” signs. The tone was more hostile than exuberant,       as if everybody was itching to extract revenge. They posed for       photos next to a large cake baked as a bust of Trump, and it was       difficult to tell which was more lifelike — Trump’s hair or the       elaborately coiffed frosting.              As the crowd swayed and bounced, a few of us in the journalists’       pen noticed an obese red-hatted man groping the rear end of a       woman in front of him. When she turned to see who was emulating       our new president, we identified the groper to a cop, who       escorted him out of the ballroom.              Two proudly conservative college students rejoiced as Trump       spoke from the stage. As for Trump’s vulgar, misogynistic       comments about women, “Oh, that’s just locker room talk,” said       Mark Pawelec, 19. “All guys say stuff like that.”              Former Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer waved her hand when asked about       the women who accused Trump of sexual assault.              “So long ago,” she said. But what about his rants against       Muslims and Mexicans, his mocking of people with disabilities?       Brewer smiled. “This is a movement. This is Reaganesque.”              “LOCK HER UP!” people shouted as Fox News flashed a photo of       Clinton and a commentator spat out the idea that her loss       represented “a big F-you to popular culture” and pro-Hillary       stars like uppity Beyonce. There were hints of the ugliness that       erupted at those disturbing, barnstorming campaign rallies,       where Trump stoked believers who wore “Trump that Bitch” T-       shirts --but this was a suit-and-tie and designer high-heels       crowd. What would those small-town folks think if they could see       Trump mingling with his VIP insiders?              Cheers rose as Trump drove home his central point.              “The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no       more,” he said.              Trump’s words rang true with Pax Dickinson, a 43-year-old       college dropout and son of hippies who is CTO of a startup       website and lives in rural northeast Pennsylvania, the       battleground state that helped clinch victory for Trump.              Dickinson showed five men in his town how to register to vote.       They had never voted in their lives.              “They never had a candidate who spoke to them, so they never       bothered to vote,” Dickinson said as the Rolling Stones’ “You       Can’t Always Get What You Want” played over loudspeakers.              Those men, most of them unemployed, alienated and angry, are the       forgotten Americans Trump marshalled to his side.              “The elites and the media in New York, Washington, D.C., Los       Angeles and San Francisco live in a bubble and have no idea what       real America is about,” Dickinson said. “They don’t even like       real America. Real America didn’t go to an Ivy League school and       doesn’t commute on the subway. Real America is out there in the       fly-over zone. A massive number of people have lost their jobs       and given up finding another one. Immigrants don’t get jobs as       lawyers or Wall Street brokers so they are not a threat to the       elites.”              But isn’t Trump the epitome of elite, the billionaire son of       privilege born and still residing in a gilded Manhattan       penthouse? Isn’t Clinton the daughter of working-class parents,       and didn’t she choose to represent the poor and neglected in her       early career? Weren’t Bill Clinton and Barack Obama raised by       single mothers?              “We’ve had Republicans and Democrats in the White House and       people are not better off,” Dickinson said. “Trump was the only       one who said something new. This was about change.”              Trump, his campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, possible Interior       Secretary Sarah “Drill, Baby, Drill” Palin and possible Attorney       General Rudy Giuliani waded through the crowd shaking hands.       When asked how the mainstream polls could be so wrong, Conway       replied: “Mine weren’t. I’ve been talking about the closet Trump       vote for months.”              How did this happen? Flint filmmaker Michael Moore warned that       “Rust Belt Brexit” and the “Jesse Ventura Effect” would put       Trump over the top. The smug scene inside Trump headquarters       proved he was right. White males who hated having a black man in       charge couldn’t stomach the idea of a woman and then, what’s       next, a gay president? Fed-up Americans voted for scam artist       Trump the same way they voted for a professional wrestler to be       governor of Minnesota -- to thumb their noses at the political       establishment.              Trump once gave me a tour of the Mar-a-Lago mansion during an       interview, pointing out the ornate flourishes of the “very, very       first-class” refurbishment he had overseen. In person, he wasn’t       the same cartoonish actor he is on stage. He had a self-       deprecating sense of humor. He wanted to be liked. I asked him       about his golf resorts and why he was such an avid player of the       game. “I like to win,” he said, in a sort of summation of his       reason for being. “Losers don’t know how to win.”              Here I was, observing his ultimate victory. I had gone down a       rabbit hole to the alternate universe of Trumpland, where the              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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