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   But But Sanctuary Cities! Disaster to All   
   Editorial A disaster at the Oroville Dam   
   14 Feb 17 09:25:59   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.hollywood   
   XPost: alt.society.liberalism   
   From: morons@sfchronicle.com   
      
   Southern Californians have been drinking from the Feather River   
   — and washing in it, flushing with it and sprinkling it over   
   their lawns — for nearly a half century without giving it much   
   thought, so the emergency at distant Oroville Dam provides a   
   jolting reminder of our dependence on the wetter, northern part   
   of the state. A disaster there could easily become a crisis here.   
      
   Oroville is the linchpin of the State Water Project, the massive   
   engineering feat that brings Northern Sierra water from the   
   Feather River to the Sacramento, through the Sacramento-San   
   Joaquin River Delta, into the California Aqueduct, over the   
   Tehachapis and to our faucets. This season’s storms have filled   
   the dam to capacity, so managers diverted water onto a concrete   
   spillway to keep it from topping the earthen dam itself. When   
   damage to the spillway was spotted, water managers switched to   
   an unpaved, and previously unused, emergency spillway — but the   
   water releases carved up the hillside, sending debris down the   
   Feather River, threatening further erosion and prompting the   
   evacuation of more than 100,000 residents downstream, including   
   in Yuba City, Marysville and once-remote towns and cities that   
   are increasingly becoming commuting suburbs for greater   
   Sacramento.   
      
   California is an extremely engineered environment. Decades ago,   
   the natural state of affairs in years like this one had   
   previously been flooding in the Sacramento and San Joaquin   
   valleys. Since 1960, the State Water Project has helped to   
   protect Northern California cities, towns and farms from   
   floodwaters while providing usable water to Central Valley farms   
   and Southern California homes. Ratepayers here, as elsewhere,   
   help keep the system in repair. The project binds Californians   
   to each other, despite the difference in precipitation between   
   the wet north and the dry south. A catastrophe at Oroville Dam —   
   for example, spillway-loosened detritus blocking flow to the   
   delta — could cause a water-supply emergency here, despite all   
   the rain.   
      
   Engineers (and taxpayers and ratepayers) have provided Southern   
   California useful redundancy in water delivery systems. Los   
   Angeles gets water via William Mulholland’s Owens Aqueduct and   
   later extensions, and the region relies heavily on Colorado   
   River and Lake Mead. But import of Owens water has been limited   
   to mitigate environmental damage east of the Sierras, and the   
   water level at Lake Mead remains so low that delivery cutbacks   
   may be on the horizon.   
      
   There will likely be lessons learned about how the state should   
   manage water from the emergency at Lake Oroville, but it is too   
   early at this point be certain what they are. Meanwhile,   
   Californians will have to keep the names and distant places —   
   the Feather River, the Oroville Dam, the Owens, the Colorado,   
   Lake Mead — in the forefront of their minds as we make decisions   
   to sustain, supplement or abandon the water projects that have   
   made the state what it is today.   
      
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   Lyhand11   
   California is the land of earthquakes and idiots. Go there and   
   you will not see an earthquake.   
      
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   Bill In The Desert   
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   Bill In The Desert   
   The problem for Los Angeles, and the rest of California, is not   
   the crack in the Oroville Dam.   
   It is, and has been for decades, the crack in damn Sacramento.   
      
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   AltRighteousVengeance   
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   AltRighteousVengeance   
   "A disaster at the Oroville Dam could easily become a crisis for   
   Los Angeles too..." One can only hope!   
      
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   longshoreman   
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   longshoreman   
   Who needs water when we have a bullet train?   
      
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   Leftyalldaylong   
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   Leftyalldaylong   
   A Delta bypass water conveyance structure is necessary and it   
   will eventually be built but it probably will only occur after a   
   disastrous dike/levee leveling event like this Oroville disaster   
   could precipitate or from an earthquake in the Sacramento/SF   
   area. Once that occurs, the CVP and State Water Project canal   
   pumps at Tracy will suck salt water and the transport of fresh   
   water south to Los Angeles will not reoccur for perhaps 5-10   
   years during the construction of such a water conveyance... »   
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   Liberalism_Is_A_Mental_Disease   
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   Liberalism_Is_A_Mental_Disease   
   We sent men to the moon and back nearly 50 years ago.   
      
   We can't make use of the 18 quadrillion gallons of water right   
   off the California coast?   
      
   Malibu limousine Liberals say, "Obstruct and Obfuscate!"   
      
   That's "Progressive" folks!   
      
      
      
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   Lyhand11   
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   Lyhand11   
   @Liberalism_Is_A_Mental_Disease The majority of Californians are   
   pretty much idiots.   
      
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   mike.gorbell   
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   mike.gorbell   
   As important as this is, it's not as important as high speed   
   rail.   
      
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   Bill In The Desert   
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   Bill In The Desert   
   @mike.gorbell: I like your sense of humor. Like a speeding   
   bullet.   
      
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   Itxassou   
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   Itxassou   
   Wow, just think, all this water is going to wash away and drown   
   all those endangered worms and fishies that your Governor   
   Moonbat has been nurturing with multibillion conservation   
   projects. All that bio-diversity flushed away in one fell swoop.   
   Makes one want to weep (snicker)   
      
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    Aaron B Brown   
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   Aaron B Brown   
   @Itxassou another clown living in Arkansas talking about   
   Northern California   
      
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   Lyhand11   
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   Lyhand11   
   @ Aaron B Brown All over the U.S. people know how stupid the   
   majority of Californians are.   
      
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   Liberalism_Is_A_Mental_Disease   
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   Liberalism_Is_A_Mental_Disease   
   Thanks for educating the Islamic Terrorists on their next target.   
      
   Will the smelt fish survive?   
      
   News at 11.   
      
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    Aaron B Brown   
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   Aaron B Brown   
   @Liberalism_Is_A_Mental_Disease another deplorable moron heard   
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   sj1968   
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   sj1968   
   @ Aaron B Brown What a witty reply. How long did it take you to   
   come with that gem?   
      
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   Tim Conner   
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   Tim Conner   
   How many of us who live west of the 102nd meridian have read   
   this? It should be required reading in high school AND college.   
   http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56140.Cadillac_Desert   
      
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   http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-oroville-dam-   
   20170213-story.html   
      
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   More than a decade ago, federal and state officials and some of   
   California’s largest water agencies rejected concerns that the   
   massive earthen spillway at Oroville Dam — at risk of collapse   
      
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