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|    Editorial A disaster at the Oroville Dam    |
|    14 Feb 17 09:25:59    |
      XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.hollywood       XPost: alt.society.liberalism       From: morons@sfchronicle.com              Southern Californians have been drinking from the Feather River       — and washing in it, flushing with it and sprinkling it over       their lawns — for nearly a half century without giving it much       thought, so the emergency at distant Oroville Dam provides a       jolting reminder of our dependence on the wetter, northern part       of the state. A disaster there could easily become a crisis here.              Oroville is the linchpin of the State Water Project, the massive       engineering feat that brings Northern Sierra water from the       Feather River to the Sacramento, through the Sacramento-San       Joaquin River Delta, into the California Aqueduct, over the       Tehachapis and to our faucets. This season’s storms have filled       the dam to capacity, so managers diverted water onto a concrete       spillway to keep it from topping the earthen dam itself. When       damage to the spillway was spotted, water managers switched to       an unpaved, and previously unused, emergency spillway — but the       water releases carved up the hillside, sending debris down the       Feather River, threatening further erosion and prompting the       evacuation of more than 100,000 residents downstream, including       in Yuba City, Marysville and once-remote towns and cities that       are increasingly becoming commuting suburbs for greater       Sacramento.              California is an extremely engineered environment. Decades ago,       the natural state of affairs in years like this one had       previously been flooding in the Sacramento and San Joaquin       valleys. Since 1960, the State Water Project has helped to       protect Northern California cities, towns and farms from       floodwaters while providing usable water to Central Valley farms       and Southern California homes. Ratepayers here, as elsewhere,       help keep the system in repair. The project binds Californians       to each other, despite the difference in precipitation between       the wet north and the dry south. A catastrophe at Oroville Dam —       for example, spillway-loosened detritus blocking flow to the       delta — could cause a water-supply emergency here, despite all       the rain.              Engineers (and taxpayers and ratepayers) have provided Southern       California useful redundancy in water delivery systems. Los       Angeles gets water via William Mulholland’s Owens Aqueduct and       later extensions, and the region relies heavily on Colorado       River and Lake Mead. But import of Owens water has been limited       to mitigate environmental damage east of the Sierras, and the       water level at Lake Mead remains so low that delivery cutbacks       may be on the horizon.              There will likely be lessons learned about how the state should       manage water from the emergency at Lake Oroville, but it is too       early at this point be certain what they are. Meanwhile,       Californians will have to keep the names and distant places —       the Feather River, the Oroville Dam, the Owens, the Colorado,       Lake Mead — in the forefront of their minds as we make decisions       to sustain, supplement or abandon the water projects that have       made the state what it is today.              Comments:              Lyhand11       California is the land of earthquakes and idiots. Go there and       you will not see an earthquake.              9 minutes ago ?       000        ?       000        Reply Share       Bill In The Desert       Flag       Bill In The Desert       The problem for Los Angeles, and the rest of California, is not       the crack in the Oroville Dam.       It is, and has been for decades, the crack in damn Sacramento.              23 minutes ago ?       111        ?       000        Reply Share       AltRighteousVengeance       Flag       AltRighteousVengeance       "A disaster at the Oroville Dam could easily become a crisis for       Los Angeles too..." One can only hope!              24 minutes ago ?       000        ?       000        Reply Share       longshoreman       Flag       longshoreman       Who needs water when we have a bullet train?              39 minutes ago ?       111        ?       111        Reply Share       Leftyalldaylong       Flag       Leftyalldaylong       A Delta bypass water conveyance structure is necessary and it       will eventually be built but it probably will only occur after a       disastrous dike/levee leveling event like this Oroville disaster       could precipitate or from an earthquake in the Sacramento/SF       area. Once that occurs, the CVP and State Water Project canal       pumps at Tracy will suck salt water and the transport of fresh       water south to Los Angeles will not reoccur for perhaps 5-10       years during the construction of such a water conveyance... »       more              54 minutes ago ?       111        ?       000        Reply Share       Liberalism_Is_A_Mental_Disease       Flag       Liberalism_Is_A_Mental_Disease       We sent men to the moon and back nearly 50 years ago.              We can't make use of the 18 quadrillion gallons of water right       off the California coast?              Malibu limousine Liberals say, "Obstruct and Obfuscate!"              That's "Progressive" folks!               |
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