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   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   As soon as the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that people have a right to   
   live   
   in a vehicle, cities rushed to ban large vehicles like RV's, and, by extension,   
   buses.  There are several objections to RVs; the first applies to all people   
   living in any size vehicles.  The first two have some legitimacy, the third has   
   none, the last two seem legitimate.  Our right to park a bus or an RV in a   
   residential neighborhood should be recognized with certain obstructions:   
      
   1. Sanitation.  People living in vehicles produce 1/2 a bag of trash every day,   
   just like other homeowners.  So do people living in tents.  Thus basic   
   sanitation   
   - Dumpsters, as well as Porta Potties for the tent dwellers, is a demand for   
   the   
   vehicle living, and the homeless.   
   1.b. Crime.  This is an unfair stereotype.  Your neighbors move in and out,   
   what   
   if they were thieves.   
      
   2. Blocking somebody's view.  While with a normal sedan you can see over the   
   hood   
   and the trunk, a bus is just a wall of car.  People have to be able to put a   
   notice on their curb, and prohibit others from parking in front of their home,   
   or   
   the home directly across from them and blocking their view.  Then I was like,   
   what   
   if you look down the street, and it blocks your view, is that just too bad?   
   Entire   
   streets or neighborhoods should NOT be able to block RV's for this reason, but   
   only individuals who's views are blocked.   
      
   3. People who hate RV's.  Even if the RV is nice and brand new, and nobody is   
   living in it, just sitting in somebody's driveway, people persecute those who   
   are   
   *different* than they are.  Blacks, Jews; they drive an RV, I don't.  This is   
   entirely illegitimate.   
      
   4. Danger - Street too narrow, or bus too close to corner - this is legitimate.   
      
   5. Preferential parking for the residents.  When there is not enough parking   
   for   
   the residents, RV's like other cars can be subject to the same restrictions as   
   other vehicles.  If there happens to be space available they apparently are   
   like   
   the other vehicles.  Like area "A" permit, with 2 hour limit, otherwise there   
   will   
   be no parking for the residents.   
      
   Our right to park a bus or RV in a residential neighborhood should be   
   recognized   
   with certain obstructions.   
      
   Your right to park, and live in a bus, nationwide, should be recognized,   
   subject   
   to legitimate restrictions.  Cities should not be allowed to betray the public   
   trust.  Cities should be brought to justice.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)