XPost: can.politics, ab.politics, edm.general   
   From: gregcarrsober@gmail.com   
      
   On 24/01/2014 3:03 PM, ConɀƦConɀ wrote:   
   > On 1/23/2014 8:56 PM, John Fleming wrote:   
   >> Unless you come from a country that doesn't have either (a) a national   
   >> health care system, (b) a privately operated health insurance system   
   >> or (c) readily available and low cost travel health insurance, there   
   >> isn't really a lot of incentie to commit health care fraud.   
   >   
   >   
   > Is that why there are MILLIONS more healthcare cards 'out there' than   
   > there are Canadian citizens?   
   > Health care fraud in Canada is a HUGE issue. And the majority of the   
   > fraudsters are Americans.   
   >   
   >   
   >  > Let's face it, if you are an American visiting Canada and you get   
   >> sick, you aren't paying your own health care bills anyway. If you   
   >> have health insurance, it gets billed to your insurer. If you don't,   
   >> and qaulify for either medicare or medicaid, medicare or medicaid pays   
   >> the bill.   
   >   
   > Nope. Wrong on many issues in that very short paragraph . . . If you're   
   > an American in Canada and get sick, you PAY UP FRONT to the hospital or   
   > clinic where you're being treated. There is no 'billing your insurer'   
   > across the border. You, as an American would have to try to get   
   > reimbursed when you get back to the U.S.   
   > The signs are everywhere in the emergency wards, the clinics and   
   > doctors' offices.   
   >   
   >> If you are a landed immigrant in Canada, well, once you have met the   
   >> requirements to be eligible for health care, that is, lived here long   
   >> enough, you go and register for health care and get it for free   
   >> anyway.   
   >   
   > Landed immigrants may or may not have coverage. If they're under   
   > 'sponsorship agreements' they are issued with healthcare numbers   
   > different from those of Canadian citizens. Same with refugees.   
   >   
   >   
   >> I'd have to look into exactly how the mechanism works. But for a lot   
   >> of foreign people in Canada, there really isn't much of an incentive   
   >> to defraud the Canadian Health Care system in the first place.   
   >   
   > My god, man . . . . have you been living under a rock? There is even a   
   > well-known internet site that has Americans advertising for various   
   > Canadian ID cards and healthcare cards - for a price. And there are   
   > Canadians - or thieves of Canadian identification records - that make a   
   > business of selling them those cards.   
   > The abuse of our healthcare system by non-qualified holders of our   
   > healthcare cards is a monumental problem.   
   >   
   > Again, I ask: why the hell haven't our provincial and federal   
   > governments done something sweeping to stop the abuses?   
   Ack Ack Gag Gag I agree with KKKookkky on this one.   
      
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