XPost: bc.politics, edm.general, can.politics
XPost: ab.politics
From: sharx35@hotmail.com
"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:lcts46$e8u$1@news.datemas.de...
> On 2014-02-05 14:26:50 +0000, John Fleming said:
>
>> [Default] On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 20:04:23 -0800, while chained to a
>> desk
>> in the scriptorium Alan Baker wrote:
>>> $On 2014-02-05 04:01:58 +0000, Sharxster said:
>>> $> "John Fleming" wrote in message
>>> $> news:2k23f9ltfqvortc1fde2euo8ecs0p051n1@4ax.com...
>>> $>> [Default] On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:51:12 -0800, while chained
>>> to a desk
>>> $>> in the scriptorium Con??Con? wrote:
>>> $>>> $On 2/4/2014 11:39 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> $>>> $> If I owned 1000 vehicles, how would that negatively
>>> impact the
>>> $>>> $> environment, Karen? I can only drive one at a time?
>>> $>>> $>
>>> $>>> $> As it happens, I have three vehicles:
>>> $>>> $>
>>> $>>> $> my daily driver (a Miata that gets about 30mpg)
>>> $>>> $>
>>> $>>> $> a Dodge Ram pickup truck that I use very occasionally
>>> to tow...
>>> $>>> $>
>>> $>>> $> ...my race car, a 1989 Van Diemen with a 1.6 litre
>>> engine.
>>> $>>> $>
>>> $>>> $> But I'm only ever driving one of them at any one time.
>>> $>>> $>
>>> $>>> $> :-)
>>> $>>> $
>>> $>>> $I'd say that you're filling up three vehicles instead of
>>> just one. Do
>>> $>>> $you consider that more than if you had only one vehicle
>>> that ran on
>>> $>>> $something other than an oil derivative fuel?
>>> $>>> $
>>> $>>> $If you had a big home with a huge yard and lawn, and your
>>> neighbour had
>>> $>>> $a small home with a small lawn or no lawn, and you both
>>> watered your
>>> $>>> $lawns in summer - which of you would be using the
>>> greatest amount of a
>>> $>>> $natural resource?
>>> $>>> $
>>> $>>> $Your "three vehicles" are the big home, ya stupid person.
>>> $>>
>>> $>> Actually, he\s only driving one at at time, so the
>>> comparison with
>>> $>> heating a big home is like comparing apples to oranges.
>>> $>>
>>> $>> With the big home, you have to heat the whole house--even
>>> if you are
>>> $>> only using one room at a time. With three vehicles, you
>>> are only
>>> $>> operating one vehicle at a time.
>>> $>
>>> $> Not exactly. We don't heat our whole house--closing doors
>>> and heat
>>> $> outlets in some rooms plus the entire basement.
>>> $> Obviously there is still some heat leakage to the cold
>>> rooms, though.
>>> $
>>> $You might not heat your whole house... ...but I would bet that
>>> almost
>>> $everyone else in North America does.
>>> $
>>> $Who wants to walk into a room and wait for it to heat up?
>>
>> You're right. Most people would use most of the rooms in their
>> house
>> at least some of the time.
>>
>> Like Sharx, I have one room on the main floor I don't use much,
>> and so
>> I keep the door closed and the heating vent shut. In a pinch, I
>> could
>> do the same with a second room. But unless I want to sleep on
>> the
>> sofa, there is a limit to the number of doors I can shut.
>>
>> The basement is a different matter entirely
>
> I think that even there, more and more people are making
> basements into living spaces. I know that the house I'm helping
> my GF get built is going to have a fully finished basement.
Well, if we fully developed our basement, that would give us 2800
sq. ft. of living space that would have
to be maintained and regularly cleaned. Do the TWO of us really
NEED that much space to knock around in?
I think not. I can see the day when a strata, one level type,
residence of, say, 1000 square feet with NO basement, would
be more than adequate. The association would take care of most
outside expenses, e.g. snow clearing, yard work, roof
replacement, outside painting... I HATE snow shovelling...with a
passion....ditto for lawn cutting.
>
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