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   The Doctor to "@nyet.ca   
   Re: Albertans favour Klein over Lougheed   
   02 Aug 14 23:20:38   
   
   XPost: can.politics, ab.politics, edm.general   
   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   ಠ_ಠ)Раиса" <"  (_ <"  (_)"@nyet.ca> wrote:   
   >This HAS to be a faulty poll.  We've often had reason to think that   
   >Albertans were more than a bit out-of-touch with reality, but this is   
   >ridiculous!   
   >Between the news generated about Alison Redford and now this, I say that   
   >Canadians should offer to pay for the testing of Alberta's drinking   
   >water in the event that the source of their leader choices is some   
   >contaminate from the tarsands.   
   >   
   >_________________________________________________   
   >Calgary Herald - August 1, 2014   
   >   
   >Klein named most admired Albertan in new poll   
   >   
   >Lougheed ranked No. 2   
   >   
   >   
   >Alberta is famous for its cowboys and oilmen, but political leaders are   
   >the people we consider our heroes - ahead of hockey stars, entertainers   
   >or even our parents.   
   >   
   >A new provincewide poll by Insights West indicates former premiers Ralph   
   >Klein and Peter Lougheed are the runaway leaders when Albertans were   
   >asked which person associated with the province - living or dead - they   
   >most admire.   
   >   
   >The survey of 627 Albertans, conducted in mid-July, shows Klein is the   
   >clear winner, with 30 per cent picking the former Calgary mayor and   
   >premier as their most admired person.   
   >   
   >Lougheed, who started the Progressive Conservative political dynasty in   
   >1971, established the Heritage Fund and governed until 1985, was the top   
   >choice of 23 per cent.   
   >   
   >Calgary Mayor Naheed Nenshi and Lois Hole, Alberta's 15th   
   >lieutenant-governor, author and philanthropist, tied for third spot at   
   >four per cent each.   
   >   
   >Former Edmonton Oilers legend Wayne Gretzky rounded out the top five,   
   >collecting three per cent of the vote.   
   >   
   >"Out of everyone who wrote a name, more than half of them wrote either   
   >Lougheed or Klein, which is astonishing," said Mario Canseco,   
   >vice-president with Insights West.   
   >   
   >"The thing that really sets Alberta apart from the rest of Canada,   
   >really, is you look at your two biggest heroes as two former premiers."   
   >   
   >Surprisingly, politicians dominated the top 10 list, with seven   
   >individuals serving at City Hall, in the provincial legislature or in   
   >Parliament.   
   >   
   >Activist and MLA Nellie McClung, who helped lead the charge for women's   
   >rights last century, finished in sixth (three per cent), followed by   
   >longtime Social Credit premier Ernest Manning, who governed from 1943   
   >until 1968.   
   >   
   >Former MLA, lieutenant-governor and Calgary mayor Grant MacEwan placed   
   >eighth, while Prime Minister Stephen Harper finished 10th.   
   >   
   >Respondents selected their own father in 10 cases - good enough for   
   >ninth place on the most-admired list.   
   >   
   >The only entertainer to crack the top dozen was country music artist   
   >Paul Brandt, although multiple respondents picked Edmonton-born actor   
   >Michael J. Fox, as well as singers k.d. lang and Joni Mitchell. Activist   
   >Emily Murphy, who along with McClung was part of the Famous 5, finished   
   >in 13th place, just behind Brandt and "mom."   
   >   
   >Other politicians on the list with multiple mentions include former NDP   
   >Leader Grant Notley, Wildrose Leader Danielle Smith, former prime   
   >minister Joe Clark, former premier Don Getty and Edmonton Mayor Don Iveson.   
   >   
   >Canseco said the domination of politicians in the poll is notable,   
   >particularly since they easily topped entertainers or sports figures.   
   >   
   >The deaths of both Klein and Lougheed in the past two years has likely   
   >elevated their profile, shining a spotlight on their legacies, he said.   
   >   
   >"It really has to do with the way people feel about their own province,   
   >and it's deeply connected," he said.   
   >"There's a sense of pride in the way the province operates."   
   >   <<=== [ now, THAT'S very worrisome]   
   >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >University of Calgary historian David Bercuson said the list reflects   
   >some of the biggest names in Alberta's political history - such as   
   >Manning, Klein and Lougheed - but significantly, it also captures public   
   >figures such as Hole, McClung and MacEwan.   
   >   
   >"I thought Wayne Gretzky would be at the top, or k.d. lang," said   
   >Bercuson. "I think it's good, because it says people do have politics on   
   >their mind."   
   >   
   >Feelings toward Klein remain strong, he noted, as the public remembers   
   >the folksy premier and his outspoken personality, as well as his   
   >accomplishments such as tackling the debt.   
   >   
   >"What you remember about Ralph was he was good old Ralph. He had beer at   
   >the King Eddy, admitted his mistakes, he took on tough work," said Bercuson.   
   >   
   >Lougheed, meanwhile, has become "mythologized" in the province as   
   >someone who stood up to Ottawa during the national energy wars and   
   >didn't lose touch with the public, he said.   
   >   
   >Despite frequent complaints about politicians of all stripes, the poll   
   >also indicates Albertans don't despise their leaders at City Hall or the   
   >legislature, Bercuson added.   
   >   
   >"I don't think we hate our politicians," he said. "We can complain - and   
   >do complain - about politicians doing bad things ... but we don't think   
   >the system is rotten."   
   >   
   >The survey also found Klein was the most popular premier in the past   
   >three decades.   
   >   
   >Klein, a former journalist and the premier from 1992 until 2006, was   
   >chosen by 59 per cent of respondents when asked who was Alberta's best   
   >premier during that period.   
   >   
   >Getty finished second with seven per cent, followed by Ed Stelmach (four   
   >per cent), Alison Redford (three per cent) and current Premier Dave   
   >Hancock (three per cent).   
   >   
   >Almost one in four people said they weren't sure who was Alberta's best   
   >premier since 1985, which captures the post-Lougheed era.   
   >   
   >The results were equally one-sided when Albertans were asked to pick the   
   >worst premier of the past three decades.   
   >   
   >Redford, who resigned in March amid a spending scandal and questions   
   >over her management style, was selected by 58 per cent, followed by   
   >Klein (10 per cent), Stelmach (nine per cent) and Getty (five per cent).   
   >   
   >   
   >Hancock did not receive any votes for worst premier, while 17 per cent   
   >said they weren't sure.   
   >   
   >The poll reflects the non-stop controversy over the past several months   
   >facing Redford, Canseco said.   
   >   
   >"It's just astonishing. Two years ago, (she had) one of the most   
   >wonderful comebacks in history and one of the most surprising electoral   
   >results. And it just flew offthe handle so quickly," he said.   
   >   
   >Insights West surveyed 627 Alberta adults online between July 15 and   
   >July 18. A poll of this size has a margin of error of plus or minus four   
   >percentage points, 19 times out of 20.   
   >________________________________   
   >   
   >Okay, that explains some of it . . . . it's rightwing Angus Reid types   
   >that conducted the poll.      (ー_ー)   
      
   Now faulty poll.  Just a faulty pair of provinces.   
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