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|    Canuck57 to Alan Baggett    |
|    Re: CRA includes usury in its bag of abu    |
|    03 Aug 14 12:20:13    |
      From: Canuck57@nospam.com              On 10/07/2014 8:50 AM, Alan Baggett wrote:              > None other than Canada Revenue Agency. It is thumbing its nose at fairness       and the law by nailing any employer who is late remitting tax money withheld       from employee pay with interest so high the rest of us would land in jail if       we tried to impose it        on people who owe us.              If an employer doesn't remit on time, they should look at interest as       not interest but a fine.              If you pay $100 of wages for a unit of work, then $60 to the employee       and $40 to employee tax accounts, then you have paid for $100 for a unit       of work.              What you are suggesting is companies can pay $60 and delay $40 in       payments....which isn't their money.              This is wrong, as in fact its fraud. Really boils down to companies       being freeloaders and leaving the gates open for fraud.              In fact we already do this fraud with pension plans. Lots of promises       of contributions to "pooled" plan scams but when payout comes the money       isn't as good or there for you.              Its why ALL wages and contributions be it wages, taxes, EI/CPP,       pensions, insurances et al. need to be paid all at one.              And if our politicians cared about the people, all our pensions would be       in our name/account/control to prevent scams from screwing people.                     > The CRA isn't usurious across-the-board, but it's website states explicitly       that for these late remittances the charge will be "3% if the amount is one to       three days late, 5% if it is four or five days late, 7% if it is six or seven       days late, and 10%        if it is more than seven days late."       >       > CRA is also on thin ice with assessments for late income tax filers. If they       owe money, late filers must pay five per cent initially, plus one per cent for       each month until the return is filed. According to my math, this adds up to a       usurious interest        rate on filings that are one to 30 days late, although the rate falls below       the legal maximum for filings that are more than a month late.       >       > Most governments assess hefty levies -- and so they should -- for chicanery       or playing deliberate games with the taxman. But these usurious rates aren't       aimed at law-breakers or game-players -- just people who pay late.       >       > Indeed, the reader who told me about the issue was hit with on       -per-cent-a-day interest when, unbeknownst to him, CRA changed the due date       for his remittances. In a normal business relationship, this would result in a       quiet word, not punishment.       >       > And if CRA wants these usurious rates to punish, then they aren't just       ethically appalling, they're also dumb. It works out to three per cent a day       for people who are just one day late, and just one per cent a day for people       who are three days late.        And it's capped at 10 per cent -- as I read CRA's information, if you're 100       days late it costs only 10 per cent, or 0.1 per cent a day. So the incentive       to pay promptly diminishes the longer you're late.       >       > This latest example of the kind of taxpayer abuse I've been writing about       for more than a year is right up there with the preposterous assumptions, the       arbitrary demands, the habit of penalizing taxpayers for CRA's own mistakes,       and more.       >       > It reflects the uncaring mindset that produced a 10-per-cent fine -- now       rescinded since it drew scornful media attention -- for paying bills at a CRA       office rather than at a bank. The attitude seems to be that if people       inconvenience the bureaucracy,        no matter how innocently or trivially, they'll be hit with a bazooka.       >       > But the point is that parliamentarians who enacted the Criminal Code thought       charging such high rates is an act so vile that people who do it belong in       jail. And now a branch of government is defying the spirit, if not the letter,       of that law.       >       > As they say in Parliament, too often with cause: Shame, shame!       >       > dcayo@vancouversun.com       > (c) The Vancouver Sun       >       > --------------------------------------------------------------       --------------------------------------       > Miss a Tax Tale Miss a lot!       > Pop the link below into your browser to view the entire CRA SOTW Library!       > http://canada.revenue.agency.angelfire.com       > --------------------------------------------------------------       ----------------------------------------       > Alan Baggett - http://www.taxcollectorsbible.com/ - Tax Collector's Bible       >                     --       Socialist-statism corruption is a great idea so long as the credit is       good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those       that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing but       unemployment, debt and discontentment.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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