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|    STILL no regulations for oil industry, M    |
|    09 Dec 14 18:10:30    |
      XPost: can.politics, ab.politics, bc.politics       XPost: edm.general       From: Panca@nyet.ca              December 9, 2014 - Macleans                     Harper and the oil patch: Honesty is the only policy              The prime minister explains crazy policy to us                     Prime Minister Stephen Harper, today in the House of Commons:               “Frankly, Mr. Speaker, under the current circumstances of the oil and       gas       sector, it would be crazy, it would be crazy economic policy to do unilateral       penalties on that sector. We’re clearly not going to do that,” Harper told       the       House as Conservative MPs roared their approval.        “In fact, nobody in the world is regulating their oil and gas sector.       I’d       be delighted if they did. Canada will be there with them.”              Jim Prentice, then federal minister of the environment, not quite five years       ago:               “For those of you who doubt that the government of Canada lacks either       the       willingness or the authority to protect our national interests as a ‘clean       energy superpower,’ think again,” he warned darkly. “We do and we will.       And, in       our efforts, we will expect and we will secure the co-operation of those       private interests which are developing the oil sands. Consider it a       responsibility that accompanies the right to develop these valuable Canadian       resources.”              Back then, it was possible to believe the federal government would impose       regulations on the oil and gas industries. The government certainly said it       would, often enough. (Peter Kent in February, 2013: “We are now well into,       and       very close to finalizing, regulations for the oil and gas sector.”) But, as       Chris Turner reminds us in his book The War on Science, Prentice quit as       environment minister in November 2010, and the Harper government’s periodic       attempts to demonstrate environmental virtue, even at some hypothetical cost to       the resource sector, pretty much came to an end.              Of course, it can be hard to tell where the notion of oil and gas regulations       ended. Prentice himself has been sounding much like Harper since he became       premier of Alberta:               “Environmental performance is important, but so, too, is our industrial       competitiveness . . . I think this low-price environment is a reminder . . .       that we have to be careful laying on costs, including regulatory costs, on our       industry, because we need to remain competitive.”              But is even that new? From my 2010 article, linked above:               “We will only adopt a cap-and-trade regime if the United States signals       that it wants to do the same. Our position on harmonization applies equally to       regulation. Canada can go down either road—cap and trade or regulation—but       we       will go down neither road alone.”              So the paper trail on the government’s oil and gas policy is a bit of a mess.       The feds will only impose regulations in concert with the Americans? Well,       there are two problems with that story. First, as Bruce Cheadle points out:               An Environment Canada briefing memo revealed last month by the Globe and       Mail shows that the United States, in fact, placed what were called       “significant” limits on its oil and gas sector in 2012.               “For oil and gas, recent air pollution regulations are expected to       result       in significant greenhouse-gas reduction co-benefits, comparable to the       reductions that would result from the approach being developed for this sector       in Canada,” states the June 2013 memo obtained by Greenpeace under an Access       to       Information request.              Second, there is simply no record of a concerted Canadian effort to work with       the Americans on joint regulations. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird       mentions the Keystone pipeline to U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry in every       meeting and at every phone call. There is literally no record of any public       proposal from Harper to U.S. President Barack Obama to work on the joint       regulations that are now, the PM says, the necessary condition of any Canadian       regulations.              In this light, I note with genuine surprise that the “U.S.-Canada clean       energy       dialogue” that was created when Obama visited Ottawa in 2009 is actually       still       a thing. I also note with no surprise at all that the latest joint report,       barely a month old, does not mention joint regulations on oil and gas       industries anywhere in its 10 pages.              So. The feds have been promising oil and gas regulations for seven years, while       periodically insisting they could produce no such regulations without U.S.       co-operation. They have also refused to seek such co-operation, while refusing       to follow up on helpful U.S. unilateral action. (By “helpful,” of course, I       mean “action that would seem helpful if anyone felt like constraining the       carbon emissions of the oil and gas sector. Like, hypothetically.”)              One more thing. If the price of oil is too low for regulations, this would be a       big change from the last seven years, when the Harper government’s argument       was       that the price of oil was too high for regulations. There is, in the consistent       messaging of this government, no time when government action to constrain the       carbon emissions of the oil sands is appropriate. When the price is high,       it’s       too high. When it’s low, it’s too low. One can assume governments in       potential       export markets have noted this message, and will act accordingly.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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