XPost: can.politics, alt.radio.networks.cbc   
   From: none@present.com   
      
   "Dhu on Gate"  wrote in message news:o4hkmk$gm1$2@dont-email.me...   
      
   > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 05:05:18 +0000, Kixi wrote:   
      
   > > Evidence must be from the time of the crime ... not 1945, not books from   
   > > 1960s or movies from 2010. Anyone can tell tall tales later ... even at   
   > > trials.   
      
   Fortunately there's evidence from 1943, right from mouth of one of the   
   leading genocidal maniacs.   
      
   "I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the   
   Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish   
   people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very   
   obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're   
   doing it, hah, a small matter.' [...] But of all those who talk this way,   
   none had observed it, none had endured it. Most of you here know what it   
   means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when 500 lie there or when   
   1,000 are lined up. To have endured this and at the same time to have   
   remained a decent person - with exceptions due to human weaknesses - had   
   made us tough. This is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be   
   mentioned. [...] We have the moral right, we had the duty to our people to   
   do it, to kill this people who wanted to kill us."   
   - Heinrich Himmler, from a speech given at Posen Town Hall, October 4, 1943   
      
   "I ask of you that that which I say to you in this circle be really only   
   heard and not ever discussed. We were faced with the question: what about   
   the women and children? - I decided to find a clear solution to this problem   
   too. I did not consider myself justified to exterminate the men - in other   
   words, to kill them or have them killed and allow the avengers of our sons   
   and grandsons in the form of their children to grow up. The difficult   
   decision had to be made to have this people disappear from the earth. For   
   the organisation which had to execute this task, it was the most difficult   
   which we had ever had. [...] I felt obliged to you, as the most superior   
   dignitary, as the most superior dignitary of the party, this political   
   order, this political instrument of the Fuhrer, to also speak about this   
   question quite openly and to say how it has been. The Jewish question in the   
   countries that we occupy will be solved by the end of this year. Only   
   remainders of odd Jews that managed to find hiding places will be left   
   over."   
   - Heinrich Himmler, from a speech given at Posen Town Hall, October 6, 1943   
      
   > > You don't prove the Dresden holocaust because someone wrote a book about   
   > > it 20 years on. You prove it from photos, reports, registers, orders and   
   > > other records created at the time of Dresden's holocaust.   
      
   > Winston Churchill and Arthur Travers Harris made no bones about   
   > obliterating Dresden, Hamburg, etc. etc.  The NAZI made GREAT EFFORTS do   
   > disguise the activities of their Einsatzgruppen on the eastern front, not   
   > to mention places like Treblinka and Sobibor which, unlike Auschwitz, were   
   > dedicated death camps.   
   >   
   > Now why do you s'pose that is?   
      
   Prob'ly the same reason that Heinrich Himmler, along so many leading nazis,   
   committed suicide:   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicides_in_Nazi_Germany   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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