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>   >> starting into writing Basic programs and when he heard what the one
>   >> I wrote would do he wanted to print out the whole thing on paper so
>   >> he could study it I suppose..  That was more than 60 pages of code.
>   >> That was a lot on those old printers that often used ribbons.

>   >tricks from some of them to help me when writing code.
>   >BASIC and Batch code is as far as I could understand.

> Ilearned Basic for Apple (Applesoft) for the first computers I built
> and then had to learn GWBasic when I got an IBM type computer a
> couple of years later. Also, as you said, Batch code was pretty much
> required, and I also learned how to write code to create interactive
> screens for a few friends BBS systems before you could just create
> WYSIWYG pages through proglams like The Draw, and later MS Word..

> But I never got into machine languages. I did get and learn an
> extended Basic with a lot more commands and utilities built in
> using APBasic, which had the advantage of being compilable into
> EXE files so you could give programs to people without having
> to teach them how to run them through Basic..

> ---
>  * SLMR Rob  * I still have a full deck... I just shuffle slower


Rob, I had several friends who used Apple II pcs but though the price tag was
high, so I got the Commodore 64 and Floppy drive tostart out with.
Ten years later got a 486 with DOS 5.0 .
Now have a XP Desktop and  Vista notebook.
No internet for the older gear just on this cellphone.

You may have seen me write this before : I had the bookfor the C= Floppy drive.
I tried forever to Format a 5.25" disk using the directions for the NEW
command.
It wasn't until I ran a program that was onthe disk that came with the Floppy
drive that would Check The Drive .
I loaded and ran that program and it asked to insert a blank disk.
When the program finished and said all was o.k. with the drive, I learned that
the program formatted the disk and I could now save programs to it 

Looking at the program listing ng thatI just ran i saw I needed to use the Open
command before New to format a disk.

The Open command was the fitsr command in the Floppy drives book.
I had not thought it was needed until I now had a Formatted disk.
I have been like that all my life.
Even the day I was born someone had to whip Me to get my attention.
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