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   From: dorewilliamson@verizon.net   
      
   "Andrew W (Agnostic Spiritualist)"  wrote   
   in message news:410f75f9$0$6790$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...   
      
   > He's planing to wipe most of us out and torture us is he not?   
   > Even though there is no evidence that we are hurting him in any way.   
   > I know you said a while back that we are hurting him with our sins, but   
   > there is no doctrine that I'm aware of that backs up this claim of yours.   
   >   
      
   He is planning on wiping out ALL evil and those that choose and DO evil. If   
   you are a member of that group, then you DESERVE to be wiped out for the   
   sake of the good and righteous people who have suffered because of you for   
   so long.   
      
   Sin is EVIL and EVIL hurts God, that is simply common sense for EVIL hurts   
   everyone.   
      
   cont   
   > I don't yet know who my creator is so none of the above is applicable.   
   > I don't believe humans have the faculties required to be able to determine   
   > who their true creator is and I don't believe that that's the reason we're   
   > in this world anyway.   
      
   There is ONLY ONE Creator, who CREATED all. You can't decide who your   
   creator is and thus ALL that I said is applicable. Your beliefs thinking   
   that you don't have the faculties required to learn and know the ONE and   
   ONLY Creator is simply your pathetic excuses NOT to seek Him, in the manner   
   that HE has determined that He can be found. Your beliefs or lack thereof,   
   does NOT remove, change or determine truths, for truth is truth, no matter   
   what you think or believe. I am informing you of the ONE and ONLY CREATOR   
   and you refuse this truth, so in essence you can NEVER find Him, therefore   
   in your denial of the truths, is EVIL, thus justice will be served through   
   your destruction.   
      
   cont   
      
   cont   
      
   > Who could that be? Let me guess. The Christian God?   
   >   
      
   Exactly, because the Father of Christ, IS the ONLY TRUE GOD, and in depth   
   study, understanding, consideration and seeking all of the truths of the   
   Bible, results in seeing the plan of God for mankind, from the beginning of   
   time until the end of the earth. No other religion offers this perfect plan   
   for mankind.   
      
   cont   
   > Don't let the other religions hear you say that about *their* One True   
   God.   
      
   Why don't they want to hear the truth either? They, like you, prefer the   
   lies, fantasies, and imaginations of their own desires, instead of the   
   truth.   
      
   > I have "checked" out and sought etc. plenty for you information.   
   > All I've found so far is a slew of conflicting doctrines and superstitious   
   > traditions.   
      
   Everything but the truth, for seeking, believing and DOING what the Bible   
   provides is abhorrent to you and thus you refuse to seek the ONLY way   
   possible for truths to be found.   
      
   cont   
      
   > Did you do balanced research of all data available in this world or did   
   all   
   > of your research consist of reading just one book - the Bible?   
      
   No, I have read many of the religious books and ideologies of many   
   religions, especially the most renown ones.   
      
   cont   
   >   
   > I don't believe that this world has any truths of the true benevolent   
   > Creator of all.   
      
   Then it is because you haven't found Him and experienced His mercy, grace,   
   goodness, truths, righteousness, faithfulness, power, majesty, greatness,   
   awesomeness, kindness, compassion, understanding and appreciate all that He   
   has given and done for mankind.   
      
      
   cont   
   > You claim that the Christian God is the true God but I've found that he's   
   > actually among the most immoral and self-centred out of the gods and I'm   
   not   
   > alone in my findings.   
      
   Immoral? HUH! He is the ONLY moral and TRUE GOD. It isn't self-centeredness   
   that he does, commands, demands and requires what He does, but when you   
   really get to know Him personally, intimately and completely, HE does YOU   
   the favor of ALLOWING you to worship Him, for when you are in His presence,   
   you can't help but be in awe, wonder and worship of Him, and great love for   
   Him, and are grateful that He allowed you to experience Him. He is that   
   awesome, wonderful, powerful, majestic and great. And there is NOTHING on   
   earth that you can compare Him to.   
      
   The reason that you are not alone in your findings is because there are MANY   
   who have yet to find Him and see Him as He truly is. You, like the many, are   
   still in darkness, sins, evil and blindness, corrupted by Satan, for which   
   you also refuse to believe in, thus he controls your mind, thoughts, and   
   actions, unaware, because you fail to confront him and resist him.   
   >   
      
   cont   
      
   > I thought so. You did no balanced research at all.   
   > You just read the Bible from cover to cover like a paperback novel and   
   then   
   > believed all it's claims of truth about itself.   
      
   No, after I believed, obeyed and found God, through miraculous and awesome   
   experiences in spiritual and supernatural events, which proved the Bible's   
   contents validity, I did go searching elsewhere to see if any other religion   
   offered more and they didn't stand up. Fact is, I did NOT read the Bible as   
   a paperback novel, but read each line and sentence, poured over it,   
   considered it, analyzed it and prayed about it until miraculous revelation   
   proved it's validity and truths to me. It was EXPERIENCING what was written   
   in truth that proved it's validity, not just reading it and believing it,   
   but I put each command, demand and requirement to the test with my own life   
   and witnessed and experienced the results, which proved to be true.   
      
   cont   
      
   > You're in love. I can tell.   
      
   I am very much in love, with a greater love that few could ever know. I only   
   wish that all, even you, could experience the great and awesome love of Him,   
   that consumes me every day, so you all could be as happy, content and joyful   
   as I am. Thank you for noticing.   
      
   cont   
   > > Few, as it was written and proven to be true in discerning the righteous   
   > > from the wicked.   
   >   
   > It was proven? Where is this proof exactly?   
      
   In mankind. Look around you, how many people do you know that walk in all of   
   the will, commands, demands and requirements of God, in all compassion,   
   understanding, joy, contentment, security, righteousness, kindness,   
   goodness, selflessness, generosity, and joy that being in love with God   
   brings? Or do you see unhappy people, greedy, selfish, self-serving,   
   materialistic, unrighteously judgmental, violent, lustful, perverted,   
   profane, thievery, warmongering, jealous, envious, coveting, secular,   
   contemptuous, arrogant, hypocritical, disobedient to God, parents etc?   
      
   cont   
   >   
   > Another question: If a human is nothing more than a physical body with   
   God's   
   > spirit breathed into it, then when a person dies, the physical body goes   
   to   
   > the grave and the spirit/soul (which is God's) goes back to him.   
   > But if the destination is hell, then won't it be God's spirit that will go   
   > to hell?   
      
      
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