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   Andrew W (Agnostic Spiritualist) to Dore   
   Re: The Dore Insanitry Syndrome ( was Re   
   05 Aug 04 20:37:38   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.christnet, alt.christnet.bible   
   XPost: alt.consciousness.mysticism   
   From: nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au   
      
   "Dore"  wrote in message   
   news:HtfQc.2445$XV5.783@trndny06...   
   >   
   > He is planning on wiping out ALL evil and those that choose and DO evil.   
   If   
   > you are a member of that group, then you DESERVE to be wiped out for the   
   > sake of the good and righteous people who have suffered because of you for   
   > so long.   
      
   I'm not aware that I've made anyone suffer.   
      
   >   
   > Sin is EVIL and EVIL hurts God, that is simply common sense for EVIL hurts   
   > everyone.   
      
   If evil hurts God then he should take care of it himself rather than taking   
   it out on us because we didn't ask to be created. We didn't ask for any of   
   this.   
   He foisted life onto us and now he demands that we thank him for it.   
      
   >   
   > There is ONLY ONE Creator, who CREATED all. You can't decide who your   
   > creator is and thus ALL that I said is applicable. Your beliefs thinking   
   > that you don't have the faculties required to learn and know the ONE and   
   > ONLY Creator is simply your pathetic excuses NOT to seek Him, in the   
   manner   
   > that HE has determined that He can be found. Your beliefs or lack thereof,   
      
   Wrong. It is not an excuse. It is the truth. We don't have the faculties to   
   know God, and the proof is that so far no one has been able to define   
   exactly what God is, and most of the world continues to argue about what his   
   word, rules and plans are.   
      
   > does NOT remove, change or determine truths, for truth is truth, no matter   
   > what you think or believe.   
      
   It is only the truth according to the Christos Cult and I don't follow that   
   Cult any more.   
      
   > I am informing you of the ONE and ONLY CREATOR   
   > and you refuse this truth,   
      
   It is merely the truth that you have chosen and I wish you the best of luck   
   with it.   
      
   > so in essence you can NEVER find Him, therefore   
   > in your denial of the truths, is EVIL,   
      
   My denial of your bible Cult's truths is ignorance at worst.   
   More than anything it is independent thought and any religion that outlaws   
   independent thought is an evil cult.   
      
   >thus justice will be served through   
   > your destruction.   
      
   You can threaten me with destruction if it makes you feel better. I won't   
   hold it against you.   
      
   >   
   > > Who could that be? Let me guess. The Christian God?   
   > >   
   >   
   > Exactly,   
      
   That was a good guess.   
      
   > because the Father of Christ, IS the ONLY TRUE GOD, and in depth   
   > study, understanding, consideration and seeking all of the truths of the   
   > Bible, results in seeing the plan of God for mankind, from the beginning   
   of   
   > time until the end of the earth. No other religion offers this perfect   
   plan   
   > for mankind.   
      
   Sounds like a good sales pitch.   
   I bet the bible publishers are all billionaires.   
      
   >   
   > cont   
   > > Don't let the other religions hear you say that about *their* One True   
   > God.   
   >   
   > Why don't they want to hear the truth either? They, like you, prefer the   
   > lies, fantasies, and imaginations of their own desires, instead of the   
   > truth.   
      
   Don't be so narrow minded.   
   You should know very well that to them, it is their doctrines that are the   
   truth and they would probably say the same things about you.   
      
   >   
   > > I have "checked" out and sought etc. plenty for you information.   
   > > All I've found so far is a slew of conflicting doctrines and   
   superstitious   
   > > traditions.   
   >   
   > Everything but the truth, for seeking, believing and DOING what the Bible   
   > provides is abhorrent to you and thus you refuse to seek the ONLY way   
   > possible for truths to be found.   
      
   I think you're obsessed with the bible.   
      
   >   
   > Immoral? HUH! He is the ONLY moral and TRUE GOD. It isn't   
   self-centeredness   
   > that he does, commands, demands and requires what He does, but when you   
   > really get to know Him personally, intimately and completely, HE does YOU   
   > the favor of ALLOWING you to worship Him,   
      
   Lol.   
   He would do that for me? Allow me to worship him?   
   Wow. That's a big favour indeed.   
   He's too kind. I could never take advantage of him like that.   
   I'm being sarcastic by the way.   
      
   > for when you are in His presence,   
   > you can't help but be in awe, wonder and worship of Him, and great love   
   for   
   > Him, and are grateful that He allowed you to experience Him. He is that   
   > awesome, wonderful, powerful, majestic and great. And there is NOTHING on   
   > earth that you can compare Him to.   
      
   I think you should marry him.   
      
   > >   
   > > Another question: If a human is nothing more than a physical body with   
   > God's   
   > > spirit breathed into it, then when a person dies, the physical body goes   
   > to   
   > > the grave and the spirit/soul (which is God's) goes back to him.   
   > > But if the destination is hell, then won't it be God's spirit that will   
   go   
   > > to hell?   
   >   
   > Only those who have disciplined themselves into the ways and will of God,   
   in   
   > all purity, sinlessness, righteousness, holiness and blamelessness return   
   to   
   > God. ALL men when they die, their souls and spirits return to the SPIRIT   
   > realm, whether to be with God, in heaven,  or to be with the devil, in   
   hell,   
   > whomever they chose to serve. God  created each soul and spirit, placed it   
   > in to human flesh, and then because of FREE WILL and choice that soul   
   > determines whether they will choose to corrupt themselves into sin and   
   evil,   
   > or repent and choose to discipline themselves into the goodness and   
   > perfection of God, thus determining their own fate in the spirit realm,   
   when   
   > they die.   
      
   But God is everything. And this is the point I was getting to.   
   Our souls especially are linked to him so when we suffer, so does he,   
   because our souls are his spirit.   
   So when he throws us in hell he's actually throwing parts of himself in   
   hell.   
   That's why the Christian and Islam hell doctrine is so ridiculous.   
      
   >   
   > cont   
   > > It is said that the scriptures were written by people who were inspired   
   by   
   > > God but when exactly did God stop inspiring people and why?   
   > >   
   > God never stopped inspiring people. What happened was that God gave the   
   > ancients His ways, truths, commands, demands, requirements, teachings,   
   > experiences, prophecies and plan etc. so that they would record them for   
   > future generations to seek, consider and follow, and when those future   
   > generation, ( NOW) have, and obeyed, walked, believed and DID what the   
   > ancients have written, He gives the Holy Spirit of truth, revelation,   
   > wisdom, knowledge, righteousness, grace, power and gifts for their   
   > inspiration to grow even more spiritually and greater than the forefathers   
   > did for future blessings, powers and wonders that the world has every   
   known.   
   > However, because of the industrialized age, material possessions, money,   
   > greed, earthly success, desires and pleasures came in and so many fell   
   into   
   > these evil traps, forsaking God, for the pleasure, comforts, desires and   
   > wants NOW, thus denying the wonderful power, Spirit and inspiration of God   
   > that would give them ALL things.   
      
      
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