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From: leddyman@nospam.butt
Dore wrote:
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>>Of course there isn't such a doctrine....we cannot hurt God, save for
>>breaking his heart. He's not going to send anyone to hell for breaking
>>his heart. God has children that he has redeemed by the blood of
>>Christ. You may hurt THEM, and many people do. Be that as it may, God
>>is preparing a place for his children where there will no longer be the
>>injustice and pain that we suffer in this fallen world. No sinful thing
>>may enter in. If you refuse the offer of God he is going to kill you
>>for the same reason I would(the only reason I would)...To protect his
>>children from you. I also don't believe that he is going to torture you.
>>I think that the second death is eternal destruction, you will only
>>suffer for as long as it takes for you to be destroyed. However I don't
>>know.....It could be for ever. If you refuse to be reconsiled to your
>>father you will have to find out for yourself.
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> How can you claim to believe in Christ, then DENY what He taught about hell?
Who's denying what Christ taught about hell? I'm certainly not. But as
you said yourself Hell is not eternal, it will be cast into the lake of
fire. OUCH!! that's hot. I happen to think that scripture supports the
Idea that that's it...everybody out of the pool... THE SECOND DEATH.
> ALL evil hurts God, as well as breaking His heart, for it denies HIS Spirit
> and empowers Satan against Him
How can you empower Satan against God? Read the back of the book...
WE WIN !! Yeah! Empowering Satan against God my big old fat hairy butt.
So all he needs is enough of us to do that and then what? he wins?
Really sir.. the only possible way in which we may do injury to our
creator is to break his heart by rejecting the saviour he sent to redeem
us.
However, we may do inestimable damage to our fellow man by
say....teaching things about God that aren't true.
>and any man choosing to serve Satan and
> empower evil, is painful to God.
Let me get this right now is this the correct order? ( the words
Bullhockey come to mind)That's what we called it when we were kids.
> God's children are ONLY redeemed when they
1. Fix your thinking ( the work of the holy spirit BTW)
> REPENT, and
2. fix your behavior (the Law) that one worked out great for Caiphas
>stop sinning, and
3.Try really hard to follow the law....Don't strain too hard you may
soil yourself
>discipline themselves into His ways and will.
A lot of people are going to hell if that's what you are telling them.
You are saved by faith through grace and that NOT OF YOURSELVES it is
the gift of God. Knucklehead!
> Hell is TORTURE, suffering, pain, anguish and sorrow and those who CHOOSE
> evil, sin, denial and disbelief in Christ, will be condemned to hell.
So will those who choose to create thier own righteousness by trying to
Repent, Stop sinning, and Discipline themselves. BEFORE redemption.
BTW how's all that not sinning going for you? I suck at it!
Hell
> is the temporary place for justice and punishment, as souls will be
> resurrected, incarnated and regenerated back into human flesh, to make their
> final choices before the FINAL judgment, where the second death, of the lake
> of fire, takes place, where there is NO more opportunity to repent and be
> forgiven.
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If it keeps on rainin' the levee's goin to break
If it keeps on rainin' the levee's goin to break
Robert Plant
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