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   From: dorewilliamson@verizon.net   
      
   "Ayin" <-ammitusen-@excite.com> wrote in message   
   news:f65075f6.0408050635.3291fc44@posting.google.com...   
      
      
   > sure sure Dore ... and all religious texts have such truths and   
   > demands ... all religions have thier deities and dogmas and zealous   
   > believers always believe that only thier belief system is the One Way   
   > and the ONLY Way.  that's called "spiritual egotism.   
      
   Yes, all religions have their self-imagined deities and dogmas, but the   
   difference is the POWER, SPIRIT, MIRACLES,  and TRUTHS that is revealed to   
   those who obey and follow Christ  that cannot be denied. The plan of   
   salvation, the prophecies and truths provided in the Bible reveal the whole   
   history of man with God, and His plan from the beginning to the end. If God,   
   Himself deems that there is ONLY ONE way to Him, then it is the way and no   
   one can refute it. Sure other can claim it, but it is lies and you and they   
   will discover those lies when you are dead, because you refused to seek the   
   truth when you were living.   
      
   cont   
   > well Dore ... without the catholic church's aggressive conversion   
   > tactics christianity would have stayed a minor jewish cult and likely   
   > would have disappeared into obscurity.   
      
      
   No, it wouldn't have, for God promised that the gospel would be preached to   
   every nation, and in fact, it was the PROTESTANT movement that brought the   
   truths of Christ, not the Catholic church, who tried to have the Bible   
   squelched, when they discovered that it's publication lead to the people   
   realizing their lies and deception.   
      
      
   cont   
   > LOL you don't see how the Jews have been persecuted?  seems maybe you   
   > need to read some REAL history books for a change instead instead of   
   > myths, legends and morality tales.   
      
   The Jews have disobeyed God, did evil in His sight throughout their whole   
   existence and thus their persecution is the punishment for treating God with   
   such contempt, disobedience, evil, sins and rebellion, as He warned them   
   countless times through the prophets and Christ, Himself.   
      
   cont   
      
   > you obviously know nothing about the history of the witch hunts.  the   
   > charge of witchcraft was more often used to get rid of people whose   
   > held unorthodox concepts and/or whose land was desired by the church.   
   > (there is, however, a theory that ergot poisoning was the cause of the   
   > hysteria). witches were most often women who lived alone and perhaps   
   > practiced herb craft. ignorant people full of superstition and   
   > unreasoning fear scream for justice for imaginary attacks.  your cow   
   > gets sick or your wife has a miscarriage so of course it must be that   
   > weird old lady down the path casting evil spells.  the only way a   
   > "witch" can hurt you with an evil spell is if you believe in such   
   > nonsense.   
      
      
   Obviously, you know nothing about witchcraft, or  evil demons, from which   
   they get their power. I suppose you have never been a victim of witches and   
   their spells, so you shrug them off as superstition. It is clear you never   
   read the situation that lead to the Salem witch burnings, nor what the   
   people suffered because of it. Evil, Satan, demons, witches, sorcerers, etc   
   DO evil to others, whether you believe in them or not, for your faith is NOT   
   what empowers them, but  Satan and demons from hell. Just like you may not   
   believe in hell, but you will end up there anyway, and your lack of belief   
   won't keep you from it.   
      
   cont   
      
      
   > but it's not very difficult to find verses in the bibe that can   
   > justify nasty behavior ... such as slavery   
      
   It is NOT the verses in the Bible that justifies it, it is man's own   
   desires, interpretations, distortions and twistings because of evil,   
   corruption, ignorance, lack of God, understanding, comprehension and the   
   Holy Spirit, which  does. In the Bible, people were given over into slavery   
   NO different than you are given over to be enslaved by your employer. The   
   only difference is that they were given food, clothing, shelter and their   
   needs by their masters and you are given money to buy those things for   
   yourself.   
      
   cont   
      
   > how about the practice of human sacrifice?   
   >   
   > Ex.13:2 "Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the   
   > womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is   
   > mine."   
      
      
   > Where in the world do you get the notion that these scriptures are talking   
   about human sacrifice?   
      
   cont   
      
   > Ex.13:12 "Thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the   
   > matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast;   
   > the males shall be the LORD's. And every firstling of an ass thou   
   > shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou   
   > shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children   
   > shalt thou redeem"   
   >   
   > oh i could go on and on cutting and pasting such verses but you'll   
   > find a way to clear yourself and your deity of any responsibility for   
   > the creepy edicts written in your "Word of God".   
      
   When Adam and Eve sinned and brought death into the world, a blood sacrifice   
   was required, a LIFE to overcome DEATH. In the OT an animal life was the   
   sacrifice,  the man had to "give up" sacrifice the best of his flock,   
   proving to God that he is willing to give HIM the firstfruits of his   
   possessions, honoring God more than possessions. But God loved man so much   
   that He sent Himself, in His only begotten Son, to be that final sacrifice   
   so you would have the OPPORTUNITY to be forgiven of your sins, if you   
   believed and repented. GOD is the AUTHOR of LIFE and DEATH. WHO are YOU to   
   determine what He should require from men, that GOD has created?   
      
   cont   
      
   >   
   > Dore ... something tells me you're not qualified to determine who   
   > should go to hell or who should be "saved".  did God abdicate   
   > authority to you or something? just because you rant and rave in a   
   > lunatic fervor doesn't mean you know diddly squat about the status of   
   > the souls of people you don't even know.  um ... in what part of my   
   > post did i demand love from your nasty desert diety?   
      
      
   It is quite evident that YOU know NOTHING of God, His ways, will, plan of   
   salvation or authority to JUDGE ME. And yes, God gave me the crowns of   
   righteousness and judgment, the authority and power over the souls of men.   
   Since I am Christ, all power and authority is MINE, for it was MY life that   
   I laid down for the souls of men, therefore, the JUDGE and One who   
   determines their fate in judgment.   
      
   Well, since you have NO respect, honor nor appreciation of your Creator, and   
   have NO desire to be loved or love Him, then you don't deserve the life that   
   He gave you, and condemnation in hell, is exactly what you deserve, so don't   
   complain about it when you get there.  In fact, you have take your life for   
   granted and don't deserve to take one breath, but He gives it to you anyway.   
      
   cont   
      
      
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