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From: nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au
"Dore" wrote in message
news:H9XRc.3846$BS3.804@trndny04...
> "Andrew W (Agnostic Spiritualist)"
> wrote
> in message news:41148846$0$2542$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>
>> What percentage of the bible would you say is truth?
>> Obviously the bible would contain many distortions and even lies after
> being
>> passed through so many hands for so many years.
>>
>
> 85% guesstimate.
Any book containing known lies is best avoided.
>
>> In the case of the crusades etc they were actually obeying it, not
>> disobeying it.
>
> No they were obeying the Catholic church, NOT God.
How would they know the difference?
>
>> Where else would they have gotten their ideas for the crusades?
>
> Greed, powerlust, selfish gain, where else do men get their ideas to war?
But they used the bible to justify it all. That makes the bible a dangerous
book.
>
> cont
>> The authorities of the time didn't encounter ANY witches to begin with
>> because if they had then the witches would have used their powers to
> escape
>> but none of them did.
>
> Yes, they did, in fact, the little girls who were oppressed and suffered
> at
> the hands of the witches is what started the whole thing. The witches DID
> use their powers to escape, the power of deception and lies, as the
> innocent
> who refused to confess to witches are the ones who got burned at the
> stake,
> while the true witches LIED and were let go.
Where did you hear all this from?
>
>> We don't have to do anything to make God our enemy other than be born.
>>
>
> You have FREE WILL and choice, by choosing evil and sin, YOU make God
> your enemy.
I have never made any such choices.
We have all been labelled criminals by default from birth by one Jewish
cult.
By their logic this is a huge jail with a totalitarian jailer who cannot be
reasoned with.
This is not life.
Life is where life forms are allowed to live and grow freely and
autonomously without interference, threats and demands.
> Don't blame God for your choices.
I'm not blaming God. I'm blaming the ancient superstitious loons who
invented him.
>
> cont
>
>> If he wants all those things then he'll have to show himself.
>> You can't be too careful these days. There's a lot of bad types out there
>> wanting our worship.
>>
>
> So you want God to bow down to you?
No. I want him to show himself, or at least update his hopelessly outdated
book.
> Well, when you CREATE a UNIVERSE, and
> create LIFE, then maybe God will have some competition, until then, YOU
> have
> to seek Him, obey Him and DO all of HIS commands, demands and requirements
> to be given such a great and awesome gift as knowing Him, intimately and
> closely.
> You were given a BIBLE,
I was never given a bible.
> that contains the Word of God, all of His
> truths, commands, demands, promises, requirements, and Spirit. It is YOUR
> fault for ignoring it.
>
>> We wouldn't care so much if it was only the truly evil ones that God was
>> targeting but like the US Govt. with the war on Iraq, the God of the
>> bible
>> is targeting the entire planet for some strange reason.
>
> And what makes you think the whole world is sinless, pure, holy,
> righteous,
> good, kind, loving, obedient and serving God that they don't deserve to be
> targeted?
I didn't say the whole world was pure but that's no reason to torment
everyone with threats and intimidation, especially if there's no evidence
that we're hurting God in any way.
--
Andrew W.
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save
you..."
~ Jesus. The Gospel of Thomas.
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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