XPost: comp.sys.intel   
   From: JK9821@netscape.net   
      
   Benjamin Gawert wrote:   
      
   > JK wrote:   
   >   
   > >> 64Bit for notebooks is just for catching the clueless masses that   
   > >> run behind high GHz and GByte numbers...   
   > >   
   > > There are people who want to run 64 bit software.   
   >   
   > Yes, right. There are tons of applications for x86-64 that _require_ to be   
   > run as 64bit on a notebook. You for sure are one of the people living in the   
   > belief that 64bit are much faster than 32bit...   
   >   
   > Interestingly, AMD64 is mostly found in cheap consumer notebooks. I can't   
   > think of any business notebook working with an AMD64 CPU. On the other hand,   
   > there are lots of P-M notebooks which provide unbeaten battery runtime   
      
   Look for thin and light Athlon 64 notebooks in the near future. AMD started   
   shipping the chips for those in August.   
      
   >   
   > (except maybe the PPC-based Apple iBooks/Powerbooks) and a great   
   > performance...   
   >   
   > >>> Is it because they can't manage to make a low power 64 bit   
   > >>> processor?   
   > >>   
   > >> AMD also can't make a low power 64bit processor. MIPS does for   
   > >> example...   
   > >>   
   > >> Benjamin   
   > >   
   > > AMD makes some very low power processors.   
   >   
   > Right, a 32bit CPU. Intel has lots of them, too...   
   >   
   > But AMD still has no real low power 64bit processor...   
   >   
   > > AMD also makes some Opteron chips that use only 30 watts, which have   
   > > the designation EE.   
   >   
   > 30Watts are not low power.   
      
   Compared to 100+ watt Intel chips they are.   
      
   > 3-12 Watts are low power.   
      
   3-12 watt 64 bit server chips with integrated memory controllers?   
   You are dreaming.   
      
   > The opteron is a nice   
   > CPU (even when having some bottlenecks), but certainly not a low power   
   > CPU...   
      
   The 30 watt ones are. Of course they aren't nearly as cheap as the   
   higher power consuming ones.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Benjamin   
      
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