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   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   Kenneth McVay OBC  wrote:   
   >In article ,   
   >Duncan Patton a Campbell   wrote:   
   >>On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:00:17 -0500, Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> 4. The fact that the Nazi murderers used gas chambers (in Birkenau you   
   >>> can see the ruins of the other 5 gas chambers) for mass annihilation of   
   >>> innocent men, women and children, mostly Jews, has been proved by   
   >>> thousands of memoires and depositions of eyewitnesses as well as by   
   >>> German official documents and plans. It is obvious fact for everybody   
   >>> who wants to approach the problem, to contact still living witnesses and   
   >>> to study historical sources.   
   >>   
   >>There is no real certainty about how many were gassed as   
   >>opposed to simply being worked to death and starved: it's   
   >>a black box.  What is demonstrable is the intent (Wansee)   
   >>and the effect (millions dead): modus operandi is immaterial.   
   >   
   >I disagree. In the case of Auschwitz-Birkenau, for   
   >instance, we know these things:   
   >   
   >1. The number of prisoners delivered to the complex by   
   >rail, and   
   >   
   >2. The number delivered by rail and deemed "fit for   
   >work." Thanks to IBM's Hollerith machines, we have   
   >exact numbers.   
   >   
   >3. We know the difference between the number shipped to   
   >the camp by rail and the number deemed fit for work.   
   >   
   >While I would agree that there is no way to know with   
   >scientific exactitude exactly how many were gassed, we   
   >do know that those deemed *not* fit for work were   
   >gassed on arrival. The data (above) give us a very good   
   >base figure as to how many people fit into that set.   
   >   
   >What we do not know are the numbers of those deemed fit   
   >for work who were subsequently gassed when they were no   
   >longer fit. At Monowitz, for instance, those deemed   
   >fit were used as slave labour while being deliberately   
   >subjected to a starvation (320 calories per day) diet.   
   >When those folks could no longer work, they were   
   >gassed.   
   >   
      
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