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   XPost: aus.services.defence   
   From: nik_s@knology.net   
      
   On 2/3/2010 4:28 AM, Arved Sandstrom wrote:   
   > Ray O'Hara wrote:   
   >> "David E. Powell"  wrote in message   
   >> news:41d8b560-cc68-47b1-922a-e9f2fb4db30f@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...   
   >> On Feb 2, 8:34 am, "mose"  wrote:   
   >>> 58 million casualities made up of men from the defence forces of all the   
   >>> countries drawn into WW2.   
   >>   
   >> snip   
   >>   
   >> Um, dumb ass.. much as I hate to reply to any of these posts and will   
   >> soon be throwing you into the killfile bin with Quin and several   
   >> others, has the thought crept into your mind that stopping the   
   >> Holocaust WAS a big part of what those people serving in WW2 was all   
   >> about?   
   >>   
   >> That maybe if you thought about that and got it, you wouldn't be   
   >> making your asinine posts and wasting not only your time but newsgroup   
   >> bandwidth with them?   
   >>   
   >> Food for thought, if you'll pause long enough to eat.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> =================================================================   
   >>   
   >> The holocaust was aseperate event concurrent with WWII.   
   >> neither event needed the other to happen.   
   >> if there were no Jews Hitler still would have started the war and the   
   >> Allies motive was not to rescue them.   
   >> If the war hadn't happened Hitler still would have rounded them up   
   >> where he held sway.   
   >> and lets not forget the Poles. they co-operated wholeheartedly with   
   >> the Nazies in rounding them up.   
   >   
   > No point in singling out the Poles. Human ethnic groups don't cooperate   
   > well with other ethnic groups. If two ethnic groups both form nation   
   > states and border each other they'll have wars. If one ethnic group,   
   > like the Jews, pervades others (by force of circumstance and history)   
   > then it will eventually be subject to persecution by the dominant groups   
   > in each area it finds itself in. The fact that much of Europe was   
   > anti-Semitic and anti-Romany is self-explanatory through human nature;   
   > if you look at other parts of the world you'll find many similar   
   > examples involving other ethnic groups.   
   >   
   > We in North, Central and South America very efficiently took care of the   
   > aboriginals. About the only thing we didn't do was build ovens.   
   >   
   > What the Nazis stand out for is that they industrialized the   
   > extermination process. That's what shocks people. It shouldn't - odds   
   > are pretty good that whatever ethnic groups(s) you come from conducted   
   > what were basically ethnic cleansing campaigns at various times in its   
   > past. I don't think the target groups ever cared much about how all the   
   > bodies were disposed of.   
   >   
      
   The other "first" was that the "Final Solution" was actually government   
   policy, i.e. they specifically set out to kill every last Jew they could   
   lay hands on. Most other examples of ethnic cleansing prior to that were   
   generally the end product of greed, stupidity, and prejudice, but they   
   rarely rose to the level of official government policy.   
      
      
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