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|    stephanebrunet@gmail.com to cableguy    |
|    Re: civilian status compared to Military    |
|    21 Dec 17 07:48:26    |
      On Friday, December 31, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, cableguy wrote:       > Yes there is, however, the number escapes me at this moment. I had to deal       > with this at work as I had civilians who literally refused to work for Sgt       > stating that he was equivalent to a Capt/Maj.       >        > After a whole lot of research and talking with CPO people as well as       > PSAC people, it turns out that first of all, there really is no stated       > equivalency to a military rank, rather there is a comparability. The books       > establish that if you require a public servant with a military rank       > equivalence, perhaps you should ECP the position to obtain that rank.       > That's the jist of the equivalancy thing. Further , there is a written part       > of the above mentioned pub that compares civilian classification to mil       > rank, for allowances and quarters allocation and other administrative       > requirement, but they are by no means an equivalency. Just a few examples       > for you that I got out of this pub:CS01 is comparable to LT(although they       > are generally employed as a cpl/Mcpl and paid as such, they usually answer       > to a Sgt or WO. CS02 is comparable to Capt, with a salary range comparable       > to lower end Capt.(these folks normally have some supervisory responsibility       > and are employed as Sgt/WO/Capt depending on the place. EL06 is compared to       > Maj but mostly employed as a Sgt/WO. You'll find these folks as LCMMs or       > Trg Standards people.Their salary range is comparable to WO Spec 1 or MWO       > standard.       >        > That's about the jist of it. I recommend that you speak to your CPO       > people on your base because there is a lot of flexibility in the       > comparability table for differing employments. The CPO here also told me       > that in some cases, where the civilian required the status as well as the       > authority of an equal military rank, then that would be written into his       > contract. An example of this is perhaps a Project Manager out of NDHQ. At       > some point they were all Lcol's but with cuts and all, many PMs are now       > civilians.       >        > Cheers       >        > Dan       > SLAPPS wrote in message ...       > >The question I have to members of this group is;       > >Is there still a "civilian equivalence" to military ranks?       > >I can remember a civilian employee in DND stating that his status was equal       > >to that of a Capt. If this is the case, where is it written?       > >       > >       > >       > >              I was just curious do you have any kind of reference or link as I am a CS-02       and a reservist and everyone keeps talking about the cs's being the equivalent       to a officer. I ask as I would be interested in receiving a commission but I       need some kind or        reference whether civ side or DOAD or QRO.              Any help you could provide would be great. Thank you              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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