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   stephanebrunet@gmail.com to cableguy   
   Re: civilian status compared to Military   
   21 Dec 17 07:48:26   
   
   On Friday, December 31, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, cableguy wrote:   
   > Yes there is, however, the number escapes me at this moment.  I had to deal   
   > with this at work as I had civilians who literally refused to work for Sgt   
   > stating that he was equivalent to a Capt/Maj.   
   >    
   >     After a whole lot of research and talking with CPO people as well as   
   > PSAC people, it turns out that first of all, there really is no stated   
   > equivalency to a military rank, rather there is a comparability.  The books   
   > establish that if you require a public servant with a military rank   
   > equivalence, perhaps you should ECP the position to obtain that rank.   
   > That's the jist of the equivalancy thing.  Further , there is a written part   
   > of the above mentioned pub that compares civilian classification to mil   
   > rank, for allowances and quarters allocation and other administrative   
   > requirement, but they are by no means an equivalency.  Just a few examples   
   > for you that I got out of this pub:CS01 is comparable to LT(although they   
   > are generally employed as a cpl/Mcpl and paid as such, they usually answer   
   > to a Sgt or WO.  CS02 is comparable to Capt, with a salary range comparable   
   > to lower end Capt.(these folks normally have some supervisory responsibility   
   > and are employed as Sgt/WO/Capt depending on the place.  EL06 is compared to   
   > Maj but mostly employed as a Sgt/WO.  You'll find these folks as LCMMs or   
   > Trg Standards people.Their salary range is comparable to WO Spec 1 or MWO   
   > standard.   
   >    
   >     That's about the jist of it.  I recommend that you speak to your CPO   
   > people on your base because there is a lot of flexibility in the   
   > comparability table for differing employments. The CPO here also told me   
   > that in some cases, where the civilian required the status as well as the   
   > authority of an equal military rank, then that would be written into his   
   > contract.  An example of this is perhaps a Project Manager out of NDHQ.  At   
   > some point they were all Lcol's but with cuts and all, many PMs are now   
   > civilians.   
   >    
   > Cheers   
   >    
   > Dan   
   > SLAPPS wrote in message ...   
   > >The question I have to members of this group is;   
   > >Is there still a "civilian equivalence"  to military ranks?   
   > >I can remember a civilian employee in DND stating that his status was equal   
   > >to that of a Capt.  If this is the case, where is it written?   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
      
   I was just curious do you have any kind of reference or link as I am a CS-02   
   and a reservist and everyone keeps talking about the cs's being the equivalent   
   to a officer.  I ask as I would be interested in receiving a commission but I   
   need some kind or    
   reference whether civ side or DOAD or QRO.   
      
   Any help you could provide would be great.  Thank you   
      
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