XPost: can.politics   
   From: dor@ma.mu   
      
   On 9/10/2017 10:09 AM, TomP wrote:   
   > Let me answer once again!   
   > 1. Taxing fossil fuels will result in consumers looking for alternate   
   > fuels.   
      
   Like what, coal dust, propane, hydrogen?   
      
   Got some nationwide delivery mechanisms and a way to convert the entire   
   transport fleet over in a year or so ?   
      
   No?   
      
   So really what we end up with is a bankrupt economy and fuel wars for   
   black market gasoline, you MORON!   
      
      
   > 2. We may already be past the point of no return   
      
   Bullshit chicken little fear monger!   
      
      
   > as I have read that   
   > even if people all disappeared tomorrow, there is a lag effect of about   
   > 35 years before there is a turn around.   
      
   SFW?!?!?!   
      
   You have identified that it takes a while to turn a battleship - what a   
   braing-asm that was for you, yeh?   
      
   > But doing nothing is not an   
   > option.   
      
   Of course it is!   
      
   In fact it is the BEST option!   
      
   > Parts of the world may become uninhabitable causing wars as   
   > people will start fighting over dwindling resources.   
      
   That has always happened - study the ITCZ in Africa, you dolt!   
      
   > 3. Trump wants to fire up coal again and ignore any movements to clean   
   > up the environment. This is 19th century thinking.   
      
   Can you imagine the nerve - we sit on 300 years of easily extractable   
   resources and he want to use them!   
      
   What an a-hole!   
      
   > By using renewable   
   > energies to power our industries instead of fossil fuels, industries   
   > will now have an economic advantage as renewable energy will be cheap.   
      
   Like Germany?   
      
   What happened when they went wind and solar and wacved coal off and   
   fracking?   
      
   A: Putin put the natural gas screws to them.   
      
   Cuz guess what...wind does';t blow 24/7/365 and the sun only shines when   
   it's not nighttime.   
      
   > (Pumping oil from the ground, piping it across North America to be   
   > refined and distributing it using tanker trucks will be so much more   
   > expensive than sticking up a windmill, wave generator, hydro power or   
   > other types of renewable energy.   
      
   Why "will it be"?   
      
   Is it already so?   
      
   What would make it so in the future?   
      
   Are you a blithering IDIOT?!?!?   
      
   > Once it is set up it can produce at a   
   > very cheap rate.)   
      
   But "green energy" is not peak load capable and it is not efficiently   
   stored, period.   
      
   Now fuck off and quit spreading your Goddamned DISINFORMATION!   
      
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