XPost: can.politics   
   From: trans@for.mer   
      
   On 9/18/2017 3:47 PM, Dave Smith wrote:   
   > On 2017-09-18 11:02 AM, Optimus Prime wrote:   
   >> On 9/18/2017 6:50 AM, Dave Smith wrote:   
   >>> On 2017-09-17 11:06 PM, Liberals are VERMIN! wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> The United States did covertly participate in the battle. Following a   
   >> request for help from Henri Navarre, Radford provided two squadrons of   
   >> B-26 Invader bomber aircraft to support the French. Following this, 37   
   >> American transport pilots flew 682 sorties over the course of the   
   >> battle.[85] Earlier, in order to succeed the pre-Điện Biên Phủ   
   >> Operation Castor of November 1953, General Chester McCarty made   
   >> available 12 additional C-119 Flying Boxcars flown by French crews.[85]   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Two of the American pilots, James McGovern, Jr., and Wallace Buford,   
   >> were killed in action during the siege of Điện Biên Phủ.[86] On 25   
   >> February 2005, the seven still living American pilots were awarded the   
   >> French Legion of Honor by Jean-David Levitte, the French ambassador to   
   >> the United States.[85] The role that the American pilots played in   
   >> this battle had remained little known until 2004. The American   
   >> historian Erik Kirsinger researched the case for more than a year to   
   >> establish the facts.[87][88]   
   >>   
   >   
   > Wow, two measly squadrons of a medium bomber. They needed a massive   
   > assault  with heavy bombers to drop a shitload of bombs on a massed army.   
      
   Right, the froggies _always_ need massive American help.   
      
   So what the fuck else is new??   
      
   >> It wasn't OUR democracy, you oaf!   
   >   
   > Democracy such as it is.   
      
   Non responsive.   
      
   > The US long railed about protecting democracy.   
      
   And we do, as we can and as conditions globally permit.   
      
   > There had been an agreement to end the civil war by partitioning the   
   > country for a limited period which was to be followed by a plebiscite on   
   > reunification. There was to be a democratic vote. The US backed the   
   > south when it refused to hold that democratic vote because they knew   
   > they would lose.  Right.   
      
   Opinion, yours, asshole.   
      
   > It was not your democracy. It was no one's   
   > democracy, but the US backed the decision to cancel the democratic action.   
      
   Opinion, yours, asshole.   
      
   >>   
   >> We were actually trying NOT to be nation-builders, something you   
   >> gutless Canuck pukes regularly revile us for, ya raving Goddamned   
   >> hypocrite!   
   >   
   > Yeah, right.   
      
   Fact.   
      
   > Okay, you are nation destroyers.   
      
   CATCH 22 - DAMNED IF WE DO, AND ALSO IF WE DON'T.   
      
   Canuckleheads love to have both sides of the debate simultaneously, it   
   feeds their national manifest hypocrisy.   
      
   >>   
   >>> The leadership in the south was notoriously corrupt.   
   >>   
   >> And the commies in the north were saints?   
   >   
   > I didn't say that.   
      
   Implied.   
      
   > I did point out that they backed the decision not to   
   > have that democratic vote that had been promised.  When the US got more   
   > involved in the war they ended up backing a coup to get rid of the   
   > corrupt regime. I don't suppose you can appreciate the irony of the US   
   > getting involved in a civil war in Vietnam to protect democracy, but   
   > cancelling the promised democratic vote on reunification and then   
   > backing a coup to get rid of the democratically elected government they   
   > were there to protect.   
      
   I don't suppose you can _ever_ let Vietnam go, now can you?   
      
   Wassamatta, you or some fellow hoser serve there and now you assign   
   lifelong blame to the US for your own poorly made choices?   
      
   Canucks are so petty in their trite little brudda blame game mentality.   
      
   >>> The agreement to end the initial conflict was to divide the country   
   >>> in two and then to later hold vote on reunification. The government   
   >>> of the south realized that they were going to lose the vote so they   
   >>> refused to hold re referendum, and did so with the full support of   
   >>> the US.   
   >>   
   >> B oo fucking hoo!   
   >   
   > Exactly the attitude that ended up with 60,000 American war dead and few   
   > hundred thousand wounded.   
      
   Fixate on 'Nam much hosehead?   
      
   Get a life!   
      
   >>   
   >> Why didn't your pissant coward nation do jack diddly?   
   >>   
   >   
   > I can use you lame excuse that it was not our democracy.   
      
   Canucks use the USA as a whipping post for EVERYTHING!   
      
   Literally you blame us as a national excuse for your own poor choices,   
   dearth of world standing, and manifest cowardice under geopolitical fire.   
      
   A nation of cowards, all keening at big brudda for cleaning up the   
   bullies for them.   
      
   I piss on you vermin!   
   >>> We were let to believe that the US was there to protect democracy ins   
   >>> South Vietnam, but it was actually quite the opposite, a ten year   
   >>> with hundreds of thousands of deaths in an effort to prevent the vote   
   >>> that would not favour the US.   
   >>   
   >> You Canuckleheads are always "led to believe" bullshit b y your hard   
   >> left disinformation media machine.   
   >   
   > I am not talking about our disinformation media machine.   
      
   I am!   
      
   > It was the US   
   > that was whining about the undemocratic communists.   
      
   Wait, what?!????!   
      
   You think there are "democratic communists" then?   
      
   Oh do tell!   
      
   Cite!   
      
   You're an oaf, a moronic oaf, you big dumb trucker bully.   
      
   FUCK YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL YOU ASSHOLE!   
      
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