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   Alan Baggett to All   
   Canada Revenue Agency fought to keep tax   
   08 Nov 17 01:44:24   
   
   From: AlanBaggett@volcanomail.com   
      
   Canada Revenue Agency fought to keep tax-gap data secret : CRA SOTW    
      
   Dozens of pages of correspondence between three different parliamentary budget   
   officers and CRA officials, obtained by a Toronto Star/CBC investigation,   
   detail a five-year battle for data that has ended in a stalemate — and no   
   information shared.    
      
   By Alex Boutilier Ottawa Bureau Reporter and Robert Cribb Investigative   
   Reporter    
   Mon., Nov. 6, 2017    
      
   Over the past six years, three different parliamentary budget officers —   
   mandated to report to parliament on matters of fiscal importance — have   
   requested federal data to calculate the difference between taxes due and those   
   actually collected.    
      
   The records required to find the figure — called the tax gap — never came.    
      
   Dozens of pages of correspondence between the parliamentary budget officers   
   and Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) officials, obtained by a Toronto Star/CBC   
   investigation, detail a five-year battle for data that has now concluded in a   
   stalemate — and no    
   information shared.    
      
   “It is disappointing,” says Jean-Denis Fréchette, Canada’s current   
   parliamentary budget officer, sitting with a large stack of paper and folders   
   in his Ottawa office, evidence of the five-year tug-of-war with the CRA. “It   
   can go on and on and    
   there’s no way out at one point, if you don’t have a full team of lawyers   
   negotiating something with CRA.”    
      
   Eventually, the PBO “had to walk away” Fréchette said. “We had legal   
   counsel, they had legal counsel. One said we should have access and the other   
   said no . . . At some point you say, ‘Do we keep negotiating?’ ”    
      
   For more than 50 years, the U.S. has measured and publicly reported the   
   country’s tax gap. The U.K. began doing the same in 2009, annually detailing   
   the amount of taxes — from both domestic and offshore sources — that never   
   make it into the country   
   s tax coffers.    
      
   In all, more than a dozen Western countries — including Australia, Sweden,   
   Poland, Belgium, Portugal, Mexico and Denmark — measure their uncollected   
   taxes in order to understand the size of their shortfalls and plot public   
   policy strategies to    
   address the problem.    
      
   Canada lags.    
   Even as the federal Liberals invested $1 billion over the past two years in   
   rooting out offshore tax evasion, the government has never conducted a   
   comprehensive calculation of the size and scope of the offshore tax collection   
   problem it seeks to correct.    
      
   In Canada, the country’s overall tax gap — including the billions lost   
   offshore — remains a known unknown.    
      
   Diane Lebouthillier, the federal minister of national revenue, declined   
   interview requests for this story. In a statement, a ministry spokesperson   
   wrote that the integrity of the tax system and the confidence of Canadians   
   “are of utmost importance to    
   the CRA,” and that while the agency “worked with the PBO to identify data   
   it could legally share,” there were privacy concerns around information   
   related to individual Canadians.    
      
   “Generally speaking, the PBO has the authority to obtain financial or   
   economic data from government departments. However, this does not supersede   
   the confidentiality protection provided for in Section 241 of the Income Tax   
   Act.”    
      
   Mark Mahabir, general counsel for the PBO, says his agency challenged that   
   interpretation, arguing that it only ever wanted anonymized data that allowed   
   for a broad tax gap calculation.    
      
   “Our position is that we work for Senate and the House of Commons so they   
   should give it to us,” he says. “They said, ‘We will give it to you, but   
   it will cost a lot of money,’ and then they moved back to the old position   
   (of denying the    
   records).”    
      
   Last year, the CRA published a report about GST tax losses, concluding that   
   about 5.6 per cent in potential revenues went uncollected every year from 2000   
   to 2014. Earlier this year, the agency released a report saying Canada   
   forfeited $8.7 billion in    
   2014 domestic taxes as a result of unreported underground economy income and   
   unpaid taxes.    
      
   But those reports ignored the white elephant in the room: uncollected offshore   
   taxes fuelled by the billions flowing out of the country and often into   
   foreign tax havens.    
      
   That offshore chunk, say experts, should be the government’s tax gap focus.    
      
   “They’ve just gone for the low-hanging fruit and left the important   
   matters alone,” says Liberal Senator Percy Downe, a vocal advocate for tax   
   gap reporting in Canada.    
      
   The best guesses from credible sources place Canada’s tax losses to offshore   
   havens at between $6 billion and $7.8 billion each year.    
      
   But those estimates are theoretical. And that means public policy is being   
   made in a knowledge vacuum, says Frechette.    
      
   “The measurement of this gap is . . . showing to Canadians and   
   parliamentarians who are making these decisions that there is a serious   
   problem in terms of collecting that money or protecting the tax collection   
   system of Canada,” he says. “That’s    
   what other countries are . . . saying as well.    
   It’s not only the value of the billions of dollars that you can collect,   
   it’s to measure it and do something, improve your system.”    
      
   Methodologies differ among agencies that conduct their own analyses. For   
   example, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service — which most recently estimated a   
   gross tax gap of $458-billion (U.S.) based on averages from 2008 to 2010 —   
   uses a different formula    
   than U.K. tax authorities — which estimated a tax gap there of £34-billion   
   in 2013-14.    
      
   International tax gaps    
   These numbers were calculated by each country's respective tax agency.   
   However, comparing figures is difficult because there isn't one commonly   
   accepted methodology. All figures are in Canadian dollars.    
      
   $70B - The United Kingdom's estimated tax gap (2013-14)    
   $24B - Sweden's estimated tax gap (2007)    
   $2.8B - Australia's estimated tax gap (2014-15)    
   $261B - The European Union's estimated tax gap (2013)    
   $689B - Estimated tax gap in the United States (annual average for    
      
   The Paradise Papers is the second major leak in two years showing how billions   
   of dollars flows out of countries and into offshore tax havens, sheltering the   
   money from domestic tax authorities.    
      
      
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