XPost: can.politics   
   From: campbell@neotext.ca   
      
   On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:52:09 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
      
   > On 1/17/2018 7:30 PM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:45:07 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/17/2018 4:42 PM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 12:38:32 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 1/17/2018 12:20 PM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:41:00 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 1/17/2018 11:24 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:18:16 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 1/17/2018 11:12 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:03:57 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/17/2018 10:50 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:33:23 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/17/2018 10:29 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:16:00 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/17/2018 10:04 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:56:07 -0700, binford tool set wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/17/2018 8:28 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 08:17:37 -0700, binford tool set   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fat and weak are the only qualities trump brings to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the executive office.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Least he wasn't golfing on Molokai. There'd have been   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _real_   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit over that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dhu   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sqwak, sqwak, sqwak!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The real world says no - relations are warming.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh grab a brain, wankee.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 minutes is all the time there is to launch when   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's an incoming nuke.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dhu   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that has happened just when????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, keep up the Chicken Little act, it so defines you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Derangement Syndrome types.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And don't forget to ignore their request to send athletes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a girl pop band to the Olympics.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheesh....   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an illiterate idiot whose never read (or understood)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything I've written:  I'm of the opinion that the Donal'   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was the _BEST_ choice of a nasty lot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dhu   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's encouraging, I did not get that from your diatribes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've established elsewhere that you either don't comprehend,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or use,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same language as me.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes we have.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See and see, but do not perceive, hear and hear, but do not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> read and read but do not comprehend.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not your eyesight that's lacking, and it's not a problem   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can fix.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dhu   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's your own failure to take full account of your words.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Least he wasn't golfing on Molokai. There'd have been _real_   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> shit over that."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> As if he'd actually launch nukes over a missed tee time,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheesh....   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Seriously????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Quite.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> No, that's not possible.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> No one could be that daft to believe such a thing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> It would have been almost entirely out of Donald's hands and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> there have been shit all over.  There's a lot in the "chain of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> command" down there who'd be happy to take things out of hand.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Dhu   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Do you regularly make up these lurid fantasies to amuse   
   >>>>>>>>>>> yourself?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Or do you just like to an alarmist without cause?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The actual track record thus far tells us the worst would have   
   >>>>>>>>>>> been a Twitter storm.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The NORKs don't believe you.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Oh?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Then why are they doing back channel diplomacy with us?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Prob'ly because they figure the Donal's the first chance they've   
   >>>>>>>> had in a long time to make some progress.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Dhu   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But you just said:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "The NORKs don't believe you."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So which is it?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Pick a side and stick to it!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Try picking a language and sticking to it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That's a bullshit deflection.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Engrish is clealy not up you alley, so mebbe you should try Swahili.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Dhu   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "The NORKs don't believe you."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "they figure the Donal's the first chance they've had in a long time   
   >>>>> to make some progress."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Those two statements are mutually exclusive, Duh.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No they are not.  The NORKs have 60++ years of not trusting US policy.   
   >>>> Perhaps I should have said "yous"....   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Dhu   
   >>>   
   >>> Dude, you contradicted yourself!   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Wrong.   
   >   
   > Nope, right.   
   >   
   >> I contradicted you,   
   >   
   > Nope, you have cognitive reasoning flaws.   
   >   
   >> and despite what you imagine, we are not the same.   
   >>   
   >> Dhu   
   >   
   > Far from it as I truck in reality.   
      
   I s'pose illiteracy is a reality for some.   
      
   Dhu   
      
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>> If they "don't believe " us, there's no reason for them to think Trump   
   >>> will offer them anything, let alone progress.   
   >>>   
   >>> First rule of holes - stop dogging, Duh!   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-and-trump-   
   >> administration-   
   >>>>>>>> quietly-involved-in-back-channel-diplomacy-2017-8   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>       WASHINGTON (AP) — Beyond the bluster, the Trump   
   >>>>>>>>>       administration has   
   >>>>>>>>> been quietly engaged in back channel diplomacy with North Korea   
   >>>>>>>>> for several months, addressing Americans imprisoned in the   
   >>>>>>>>> communist country and deteriorating relations between the   
   >>>>>>>>> long-time foes, The Associated Press has learned.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It had been known the two sides had discussions to secure the June   
   >>>>>>>>> release of an American university student. But it wasn't known   
      
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