From: jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca   
      
   On 13-02-01 10:54, Some Guy wrote:   
      
   > All of that is sufficient to establish that every IP participating in   
   > that torrent is violating the rights of the owner of the work - as long   
   > as the torrent does indeed constitute a copy of the work.   
      
   If GardaLey is connected to the tracker for that torrent but not   
   downloading or uploading anything from anyone, is it guilty of   
   infringement ?   
      
   Similarlty, if GardaLey sees some other IP addresses hanging around in   
   th torrent's tracker, does it have any proof that they are doing   
   anything else but hanging around, pretending to always have 27% of the   
   file ?   
      
   Just because an IP is seen in a tracker's list of participants in a   
   torrent does not *prove* that IP address is actively uploading or   
   downloading the content.  Yes, between you and me, the odds are that it   
   is participating actively, but it isn't a proof.   
      
   > When a rights-holder finds a copy of their work on an active torrent,   
   > they should be able to:   
      
   The ISP has no role to play. The Torrent network has a role to play. Why   
   not ask the torrent operator to pull the offending torrent from its   
   search engine and no longer serve the .torrent file ? Why don't they ask   
   the torrent network to stop seeding the work ?   
      
      
   > a) contacting the individual ISP's in question in "real time" and give   
      
   Not gonna happen. How th fuck is the ISP supposed to know the person who   
   calls them is legit ?  Tony would call Teksavvy and request that Marc   
   Bissonette's IP be disconnected right away.   
      
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