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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Amenders Reply at SCC on standin    |
|    11 Aug 15 05:37:20    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              Jct: 17 people have sought to appeal the Manson decision       refusing any amendments to their permits, whether to move or       change grower or whether to amend the date on Possess       permits of those Left Out to match their valid Grow permits.              This is Jeff Harris' Reply to the Crown's response at the       Supreme Court of Canada. New Leave Applications will be       ready for the remaining applicants later today.              Jeff Harris              Aug 10 2015              VIA FACSIMILE              Mr. Roger Bilodeau, Registrar       Supreme Court of Canada       301 Wellington St. Ottawa, K1A 0J1              Mr. Registrar:               re: Jeffery Harris v. HMTQ File No: ?????              Please accept this letter as the Applicant's Reply.              I am a member of the class affected by the Mar 21 2014       Manson Order that was carefully crafted to exclude half of       Canada's self-grower patients.              In the appeal seeking to expand the remedy to all patients,       the Court of Appeal could not discern why Manson J. had       granted the class a Right but had then denied that right to       half the patients now condemned to no relief for their pain       or even deaths. But rather than immediately expanding the       relief themselves, the higher court returned it to       Justice Manson to explain if he'd forgotten to include them       lin the remedy (since they could not fathom why he had cut       off their medication.              Justice Manson rejected any expansion of relief ruling he       had condemned some to a no-medicine fate after repeatedly       pointing out he was protecing the market viability of the       MMPR, if not the actual viability of the patients by forcing       as many patients as possible off their cheap home-grown       source onto the Licensed Production market.              Similarly, his decision was carefully crafted to allow no       amendments which forces patients to buy from the regime when       their Designated grower dies or they have to move.              Rather than immediately appealing and seeking interim relief       for the Left-Outs from the higher court that seems not to       have given regime viability much weight in their       deliberations, John Conroy tried to have the Allard case       adjourned pending the Smith decision at the Supreme Court       thus leaving everyone without remedy during the wait.              When that was rejected, Conroy finally appealed the Manson       Order but did not seek interim remedy. He was late and got       an extension of time only 2 months later. Then he       discontinued the appeal to the higher court with the power       to expand the remedy to all patients in favoring of seeking       a variation of Manson's carefully-crafted decision from the       lower court that did not have the power to over-rule.       Justice Phelan of course rejected that loser motion to vary       Manson's Order citing 4 times that he could not vary a       "carefully crafted" decision by his peer on his bench. Only       an Appellate Court can overturn such carefully-crafted       decision but Conroy had now foreclosed on that better       alternative.              The Federal Court of Appeal has now ruled that no one else       in the affected class but the Allard Plaintiffs have legal       standing to appeal the Manson decision. Though it had       started as a class action where all would have had legal       standing, Conroy then changed the style of cause to only his       4 Plaintiffs.              And should anyone wish to start a similar Action for relief       below, Justice Phelan has stayed all cases seeking similar       relief below until the final adjudication of Allard       including mine.              Mr. Conroy and the courts have left the many thousands of       those of us condemned to the pain and death of the Manson       Order no recourse but to the Supreme Court of Canada. We sit       here shafted while the Allard case seeks nothing that can       help with our need for amendments. But though we are       directly affected by the decision, our rights to appeal and       to seek our own remedy have been stymied below by Conroy and       the Courts.              With a carefully-crafted Court Order condemning many       thousands to suffering and death, it doesn't get more       nationally important than this. We are the first mini-wave       of 17 to have used these legal kits to seek amendments and       been so stymied.              If 270 Plaintiffs at once shook up the Federal Court below,       what effect would 2,700 Applicants or all 18,000 Left-Outs       following my lead for Leave to Appeal have at the top? The       next wave won't be mini and could be 18,000 more filing       motions for standing in Federal Court of Appeal to then       appeal the refusal up to the Supreme Court for final       adjudication; to ream a torrent of protest through the       Supreme Court to show our major dissatisfaction!              Every one of all dis-medicated patients may take the same       recourse I have. Conroy has so sabotaged any hope of relief       that going to the Federal Court of Appeal to be       automatically refused and then seeking leave to appeal to       this Court is the only hope all patients under threat have       any more.              Jeff Harris              JCT: Now I'm going to put the new information into the SCC       leave application for general use about Conroy screwing       everyone by discontinuing the Manson appeal to the 3 guys       with power to over-rule him in favor of returning to ask       Justice Phelan who explain that he doesn't have the power to       vary the carefully-crafted decision of peer. Hope people are       starting to understand how Conroy scammed them. He had an       appeal to guys with power to provide relief and discontinued       it to go to a judge without any power! Get it? Yet?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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