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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: Amenders Reply at SCC on standin   
   11 Aug 15 05:37:20   
   
   From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   Jct: 17 people have sought to appeal the Manson decision   
   refusing any amendments to their permits, whether to move or   
   change grower or whether to amend the date on Possess   
   permits of those Left Out to match their valid Grow permits.   
      
   This is Jeff Harris' Reply to the Crown's response at the   
   Supreme Court of Canada. New Leave Applications will be   
   ready for the remaining applicants later today.   
      
   Jeff Harris   
      
   Aug 10 2015   
      
   VIA FACSIMILE   
      
   Mr. Roger Bilodeau, Registrar   
   Supreme Court of Canada   
   301 Wellington St. Ottawa, K1A 0J1   
      
   Mr. Registrar:   
      
        re: Jeffery Harris v. HMTQ File No: ?????   
      
   Please accept this letter as the Applicant's Reply.   
      
   I am a member of the class affected by the Mar 21 2014   
   Manson Order that was carefully crafted to exclude half of   
   Canada's self-grower patients.   
      
   In the appeal seeking to expand the remedy to all patients,   
   the Court of Appeal could not discern why Manson J. had   
   granted the class a Right but had then denied that right to   
   half the patients now condemned to no relief for their pain   
   or even deaths. But rather than immediately expanding the   
   relief themselves, the higher court returned it to   
   Justice Manson to explain if he'd forgotten to include them   
   lin the remedy (since they could not fathom why he had cut   
   off their medication.   
      
   Justice Manson rejected any expansion of relief ruling he   
   had condemned some to a no-medicine fate after repeatedly   
   pointing out he was protecing the market viability of the   
   MMPR, if not the actual viability of the patients by forcing   
   as many patients as possible off their cheap home-grown   
   source onto the Licensed Production market.   
      
   Similarly, his decision was carefully crafted to allow no   
   amendments which forces patients to buy from the regime when   
   their Designated grower dies or they have to move.   
      
   Rather than immediately appealing and seeking interim relief   
   for the Left-Outs from the higher court that seems not to   
   have given regime viability much weight in their   
   deliberations, John Conroy tried to have the Allard case   
   adjourned pending the Smith decision at the Supreme Court   
   thus leaving everyone without remedy during the wait.   
      
   When that was rejected, Conroy finally appealed the Manson   
   Order but did not seek interim remedy. He was late and got   
   an extension of time only 2 months later. Then he   
   discontinued the appeal to the higher court with the power   
   to expand the remedy to all patients in favoring of seeking   
   a variation of Manson's carefully-crafted decision from the   
   lower court that did not have the power to over-rule.   
   Justice Phelan of course rejected that loser motion to vary   
   Manson's Order citing 4 times that he could not vary a   
   "carefully crafted" decision by his peer on his bench. Only   
   an Appellate Court can overturn such carefully-crafted   
   decision but Conroy had now foreclosed on that better   
   alternative.   
      
   The Federal Court of Appeal has now ruled that no one else   
   in the affected class but the Allard Plaintiffs have legal   
   standing to appeal the Manson decision. Though it had   
   started as a class action where all would have had legal   
   standing, Conroy then changed the style of cause to only his   
   4 Plaintiffs.   
      
   And should anyone wish to start a similar Action for relief   
   below, Justice Phelan has stayed all cases seeking similar   
   relief below until the final adjudication of Allard   
   including mine.   
      
   Mr. Conroy and the courts have left the many thousands of   
   those of us condemned to the pain and death of the Manson   
   Order no recourse but to the Supreme Court of Canada. We sit   
   here shafted while the Allard case seeks nothing that can   
   help with our need for amendments. But though we are   
   directly affected by the decision, our rights to appeal and   
   to seek our own remedy have been stymied below by Conroy and   
   the Courts.   
      
   With a carefully-crafted Court Order condemning many   
   thousands to suffering and death, it doesn't get more   
   nationally important than this. We are the first mini-wave   
   of 17 to have used these legal kits to seek amendments and   
   been so stymied.   
      
   If 270 Plaintiffs at once shook up the Federal Court below,   
   what effect would 2,700 Applicants or all 18,000 Left-Outs   
   following my lead for Leave to Appeal have at the top? The   
   next wave won't be mini and could be 18,000 more filing   
   motions for standing in Federal Court of Appeal to then   
   appeal the refusal up to the Supreme Court for final   
   adjudication; to ream a torrent of protest through the   
   Supreme Court to show our major dissatisfaction!   
      
   Every one of all dis-medicated patients may take the same   
   recourse I have.  Conroy has so sabotaged any hope of relief   
   that going to the Federal Court of Appeal to be   
   automatically refused and then seeking leave to appeal to   
   this Court is the only hope all patients under threat have   
   any more.   
      
   Jeff Harris   
      
   JCT: Now I'm going to put the new information into the SCC   
   leave application for general use about Conroy screwing   
   everyone by discontinuing the Manson appeal to the 3 guys   
   with power to over-rule him in favor of returning to ask   
   Justice Phelan who explain that he doesn't have the power to   
   vary the carefully-crafted decision of peer. Hope people are   
   starting to understand how Conroy scammed them. He had an   
   appeal to guys with power to provide relief and discontinued   
   it to go to a judge without any power! Get it? Yet?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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