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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Conroy sells out Exemptees and n    |
|    23 Aug 15 12:35:54    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              JCT: Or is it they just don't know?              Mar 21 2014 Justice Manson ruled that in order to protect       the viability of the MMPR, he was cutting off half of       Canada's exemptees from their meds (including Allard co-       Plaintiff Tanya Beemish) and the remaining half would have       their permits cancelled for any needed change (including       Allard co-Plaintiff David Hebert).              In Dec 2015 three judges of the Court of Appeal can't       understand why Justice Manson would have Left Out half of       Canada's Exemptees from access to their medicine nor why he       was cutting off meds to people who needed permit changes.       sNote, they didn't even notice the 5 times Justice Manson had       said it was in consideration of the effects on the MMPR. But       rather than expand the relief themselves, concluding they       "could not speculate why" he left them out and not realizing       he had given his reason 5 times, they sent it back for his       reason. And he told them for the 6th time it was for       viability of the MMPR, if not the patients.              The only way to over-rule Manson's Death Penalty on Permits       was to go back to the higher Court that hadn't even       considered MMPR viability in their deliberations! And ask       for an Interim Order allowing all patients the needed remedy       while the appeal of Manson's Execution Order is challenged.              So Conroy appeals to the Federal Court of Appeal but does       not move for interim remedy. Let the patients live without       their meds while Conroy's appeal goes on. Get that? He       didn't ask for immediate remedy he would have most likely       received within days!!!              Now comes the Stab-in-the-Back. He tells all his hillbilly       supporters that the legal wisdom was to discontinue the       appeal to the higher court with jurisdiction to overrule       Federal Court Justice Manson to stay below and ask another       peer judge with no jurisdiction to vary Manson's Order.              Of course Justice Phelan dismissed the motion to vary on the       grounds he had no jurisdiction to vary a carefully-crafted       Order that Justice Manson meant to cut them off. No doubts       about it.              Get that! Conroy discontinued the appeal to the higher       judges with the jurisdiction to overrule Manson to go put on       a show below before a judge without any jurisdiction. Get       it? That whole motion to vary was smoke & mirrors.              No remedy for the Left-Outs! No remedy for those needing       amendments. All hope was not lost, but it was discontinued.              Now, if you're in the affected class, you can't start your       own Statement of Claim for relief. Phelan ordered all others       but Conroy's Plaintiffs are automatically stayed until the       Allard case is over, whether they're seeking anything to       help you or not. And usually not.              Nor can you file your own appeal because Conroy changed it       from a class action where you'd have a stake to an action       with only his 4 Plaintiffs having a stake; while making       everyone think they were in on it. Did you contribute       thinking he was protecting your right with theirs?              Some in the group did apply to appeal the Manson order       afflicting them but Federal Appeal Justice Dawson ruled only       Conroy's Beemish Left-Out and Hebert Moved-Out had standing       to appeal, no one else in the group since it's not a class,       and the Allard had it discontinued... Har har har har har       har, she must have chuckled at the patients being so screwed       by Conroy, but Jeff Harris is leading 17 people in appealing       her decision to the Supreme Court of Canada that only       Conroy's Plaintiffs have standing to appeal for the class       and since they discontinued, everyone else is out of luck       and have to live with it; or die, for some.              If you were screwed in the Manson Order and have now been       screwed by Conroy discontinuing the appeal to amend your       permits, your only hope is to join Jeff Harris and other       Manson victims needing permit amendments at the Supreme       Court of Canada.              It costs $75 to get an Application for Leave to Appeal the       decision that you have no standing on the record at the top.       And maybe a ton of angry victims could make an impression.       And there's even a Fee Waiver form to save the $75 if you're       poor as most of Manson's victims probably now are.              So if you are one of those screwed by Conroy's       discontinuance of your appeal for expansion to the right       guys, this is your one and last hope. You can help exert       pressure at the top for a pittance or even free. And if you       don't, someday, someone may ask why you did not. After all,       having your name at the top for posterity is a once in a       lifetime change on an issue you'll be proud to let people       link to forever.              I'm discontinuing going to the guys with jurisdiction to       save you to go to the guy who doesn't.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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