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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: Art Jackes report on getting pos   
   13 Jan 16 14:33:54   
   
   From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   JCT: Art Jackes huhOreally@me.com is one of the Consolidated   
   26 Appellants in the "Phelan can't play doctor" appeals has   
   already fought to the Supreme Court of Canada once and this   
   will be twice no matter who wins. Here is his report on the   
   hearing:   
      
   I spent Monday with my "SAVIOUR", JOHN TURMEL!   
      
   JCT: Well, I saved 4,000 from prosecution in 2003 and could   
   be saving 18,000 from the MMPR so "You're welcome" when I   
   score the bigger number. Who'd have thought anything could   
   have beaten 4,000 but the shot now exists! Love the feeling   
   of the dice in the air with big pay-off.   
      
   AJ: I know I said "thank you John", when you dropped me off   
   in Oakville, on your way home to Brantford, after our "Gold   
   Star Team" day in court, in Toronto on Monday, January 11,   
   2016 but it really seems like "thank you" is insufficient!   
   A SINCERE, GENUINE, "THANK YOU JOHN TURMEL", GOOD SAMARITAN,   
   ACTIVIST EXTRAORDINAIRE!   
   What does one say to someone who spends so much time, and   
   puts in so much effort to assist someone they have only just   
   met through a phone call?   
      
   (I'd helped Gold Star member, Sharon Misener, get her ATP,   
   as well as a DG, a couple of years before the MMPR.  Sharon   
   went to Ottawa for the protest on April Fool's day/2014   
   where she met John and Ray Turmel, and others and in the   
   process became a double Gold Star in 1 day.  Sharon passed   
   on his contact information when she came home and told me   
   about the adventure and having met everyone along with the   
   "World's Smartest Man", a Mr. JOHN TURMEL!). SHARON, THANKS   
   TOO! - for passing John's info along to me!   
      
   My DG deserted me - one of the many dreaming, hoping to   
   become an LP, he needed to retro fit his building to MMPR   
   standards and growing for the one that had given him the   
   initial opportunity to improve and perfect his green thumb   
   was now interfering with the process.   
      
   Not able to transfer the grow back to my name, as in the   
   past, wasn't permitted by Hellth Canada, instead..... they   
   were generously giving me the opportunity to be supplied by   
   the new regime of LP's under the MMPR. LP's kind enough to   
   offer me potential medication for only $6-$15/gram,   
      
   JCT: That's what the Crown kept reminding the judges, how   
   Phelan knew they always had the chance to go buy from the   
   LPs, several times.   
      
   AJ: a real bargain for someone on disability, trying survive   
   on less than $1100/month out of which comes rent, food,   
   clothing, transportation and anything else that might be   
   needed....... Oh, yeah that's right, I still need money for   
   Meds..... My prescription of 20grams/day from the LP's might   
   cost as much as $300 EVERY DAY at $15/gram, a taxes?   
   Delivery?   
      
   I WAS SCREWED!!.....so I called JOHN TURMEL and the rest is   
   history.   
      
   I helped run The John Turmel booth for part of the last Hemp   
   Show - "the Treating Yourself Expo" in Toronto, trying to   
   get others to join our Gold Star Team in the fight to end   
   prohibition. As time went by, I gradually learned how one   
   was to deal with the courts to fight back after much   
   assistance from John and other Gold Stars like Heidi   
   Chartrand.  THANKS AGAIN TOO, HEIDI!   
      
   JCT: Yes, hasn't Halifax Heidi Chartrand been effective.   
   Doesn't she have a ton of background.   
      
   AJ: I had 1 of my appeals go all the way to the Supreme   
   Court of Canada, but technically it didn't work out, so I   
   was really pleased to get another chance with John and the   
   other Gold Star appellants in court in Toronto on Monday.   
      
   As I watched JOHN TURMEL, my SAVIOUR, going through his   
   delivery it gave me a chance to see this man's genius at   
   work!  I was very impressed JOHN!  You really did a GREAT   
   JOB!   
      
   JCT: Helps to have great cards. Terry Parker denied his 4th   
   interim exemption as inappropriate, Ray busted under the   
   stupid plant limit while under-storage! Robert Left-Out   
   because Manson took time, Paddie Burrows cut off while   
   cutting his tumor down, Health Canada cutting off 2,000   
   Eastern Canadians because Dr. Kammermans had not returned to   
   his Ontario office to sign but signed in the wrong   
   provinces, the reason to cut off 2,000 patients!!! Loved   
   getting that in. And you who can't move because you don't   
   have standing and Conroy's David Hebert who has standing   
   won't.   
      
   AJ: I couldn't help but keep thinking, how it might have   
   gone had I been up before the judges trying to defend   
   myself, instead of John - I know I wouldn't have held a   
   candle to John's carefully crafted presentation as he   
   brought each point out, and backed it up with the facts.   
      
   JCT: After going through our 20 torts one at a time, the   
   judges can still determine, after the Crown said there were   
   more issues in overlap, that no matter how they counted, we   
   still had 16 issues they had not raised on paper.   
      
   AJ: It was an emotional day! I was nervous not knowing what   
   to expect. I watched the judges closely trying to determine   
   what was going on in their minds as John spoke. Judge   
   Gleason was a worry, as she seemed to have a great poker   
   face not really giving out any indication of what, if   
   anything was going through her mind. I didn't even think she   
   was interested in the proceedings, it looked like she was   
   trying to figure out something serious, how to get her own   
   Powerball ticket.   
      
   The other judges seemed to lighten up a bit, displaying an   
   almost human-like quality - Judge Pelletier's lip gradually   
   started to curl up a bit as John delivered a lengthy bit of   
   data about the wrongs of Hellth Canada, their counsel Jon   
   Bricker and previous Judge Phelan - you could tell when he   
   spoke to John clarifying comments that were damaging to the   
   Crown that he kinda liked what John had to say about the   
   scoundrels that were screwing us and it seemed as though he   
   was trying to back up John's valiant attempt to assist the   
   Gold Star Team. Why, the Judge almost broke out in a huge   
   smile at one point, touched by John's presentation.   
      
   John had gone through a long list of technical data and when   
   Judge Pelletier first spoke to John, it shocked me! I was   
   surprised that Pelletier's question to John, actually   
   indicated to me, he really had followed and comprehended all   
   the data that had just been covered and this impressed me   
   very much, I started to think we might have a chance.  Even   
   Judge Stratas, warming up to John, also raised a few points,   
   each time it seemed, in our favour, clarifying something   
   that would be damaging for the crown.   
      
   JCT: It is a rush, isn't it, when you find out they get what   
   you're saying. But a bigger rush later when they shove it in   
   the Crown's face in direct contradiction of what he just   
   said.   
      
      
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