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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: MMPR gone! submit old MMAR Amend   
   21 Mar 16 08:28:12   
   
   From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   JCT: I've been thinking. Under the MMAR, patients had the   
   right to move, change dosages and growing data. Then under   
   the MMPR, that right became unnecessary with supply from   
   L.P.s (they argued).   
      
   Manson's Injunction was against a now-invalid MMPR to extend   
   the privileges of MMAR to those he let live. But without a   
   way to register changes with the MMAR database down, he   
   didn't order one so anyone who changed anything got knocked   
   out (to protect the viability of the MMPR, Manson said).   
      
   Now, with the MMPR struck down by Phelan, and the MMPR's   
   repeal of the MMAR not having taken effect, then the right   
   to amend should still exist again and the Crown has been   
   derelict in not re-opening the database to provide such   
   avenue of relief.   
      
   So if I had an ATP exemption and had to move or change   
   something I used to have a right to do under the MMAR, and   
   now with no MMPR to repeal the MMAR, it's kind of back-alive   
   except Health Canada hasn't done its duty to provide access   
   and supply through amendments in the same way they had   
   provided it in the past!   
      
   It's not our fault HC hasn't immediately set up the database   
   for editing again. I think I'll still just send them an old   
   MMAR application with the necessary changes so I can tell   
   any cops my application was sent in and Health Canada's   
   slow.   
      
   And if they won't accept that an Absent Exemption means No   
   Prohibition, then it's proving Parker in a constitutional   
   challenge we're already prepared to file.   
      
   Does anyone have an old blank MMAR Amendment form they can   
   upload for everyone to use?   
      
   I just can't think of any better way to add pressure on HC   
   and cover your asses to amend right now than sending in   
   the proper form that was never repealed by the invalid MMPR.   
   Can you? It sure beats sitting there waiting, doesn't it?   
      
   Especially if the Crown appeals, then it'll take years more   
   waiting without any new regime for self-growing or changes.   
   Get it? We can file old MMARs while the Crown wastes time   
   appealing and it puts them on the spot.   
      
   What a wonderful conundrum they face. What are they going to   
   do with proper documentation again in these times of   
   waiting? Paper in hand is always a pain for them to deal   
   with. They can't call the cops and say you've applied to   
   move. So rather than just move and hide, just move and apply   
   to someone who can't tell the cops anyway. Get it? Do what   
   you used to be able to legally do and submit the form to the   
   guys you used to legally submit them to who can't tell the   
   cops anyway.   
      
   Though I tell people who call me to "Do what you gotta do for   
   PMU" and be ready to put up a fight with my self-defence   
   protection, this is FREE extra coverage.   
      
   It's a neat way to push the Allard win in their faces while   
   they think they can stall the eventual loss on appeal. Are   
   they going to send you a letter saying they will not process   
   their own form now that the new ones have been struck down   
   (they're going to say: In 6 months and after we appeal, way   
   later than that)?   
      
   So we are not submitting the MMPR forms Justice Phelan said   
   were unconstitutional but the MMAR ones that used to be. Har   
   har har har har har har har har.   
      
   Submit the old MMAR form! Har har har har har har. And they   
   shouldn't tell.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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