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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Reply to Crown motion for no Gol    |
|    06 May 16 14:33:05    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              John C. Turmel, B.Eng.,       50 Brant Ave., Brantford, N3T 3G7,       Tel/Fax: 519-753-5122, Cell: 519-717-1012       Email: johnturmel@yahoo.com              Friday May 6 2016              Letter to the Federal Court Administrator       Fax: 416-973-2154              Dear Sir/Lady:              In response to the Defendant's letter pleading to avoid a live       hearing on the dismissal of the "Turmel Kit" claims, I must       reply:              REPRESENTATION              1. CR: The plaintiff's letter also notes that other plaintiffs       will not be responding to Canada's motion record, and that it       is Mr. Turmel's intention to instead serve and file a single       response on behalf of all plaintiffs.              2. I'm filing a single response and telling others they       needn't bother doing the identical unless they want to. I       won't he posting a kit for an off-target motion. Crown might       want 310 Response motions in their files but would the       Registry appreciate such replication in theirs?              3. CR: Canada opposes "any attempt by the plaintiff to respond       to the motion on behalf of the plaintiffs in the other       proceedings identified in Canada's motion record."              4. Why would the Crown insist on needless replication but to       inconvenience self-represented Plaintiffs and permit Canada to       later argue "Plaintiffs did not avail themselves of the       opportunity" in order to contest dismissal of their actions?       Does the Court really want 310 Plaintiffs all filing identical       Motion Response kits? If so, Plaintiffs request the same       convenience of serving and filing our Motion Records by email       as was granted the Defendant; but with the email header as       sufficient proof of service on the Defendant.              5. CR: "To the extent that Mr. Turmel is proposing to       represent the other plaintiffs.. As Mr. Turmel is not a       solicitor, Canada requests that the Court not entertain any       submissions by him on behalf of the other plaintiffs."              6. Canada has asked that the "Turmel Kit" actions be       consolidated as were the 26 "Turmel Kit" appeals at the       Federal Court of Appeal. Though Canada was unable to identify       a lead Appellant, that Court named John Turmel as Lead       Appellant for the Turmel Kit Appellants. To allay Canada's       worries about any unqualified representation, I consent to the       Crown's motion for consolidation and suggest John Turmel be       named as Lead Plaintiff of the "Turmel Kit" Plaintiffs. It       would help if the court granted my previous request for the       list of emails of the Turmel Kit Plaintiffs.              NO REASON NOT IN WRITING              7. CR: In any event, the plaintiff has not identified a       substantial reason why he cannot adequately respond to       Canada's motion in writing.              8. I can respond in writing. But it is some of the lesser       wordsmiths who could not that the Crown is putting at the       disadvantage, not me.              9. CR: While he suggests that his co-plaintiffs are "lesser       wordsmiths,"              10. Who am I to comment on the talents of a couple of hundred       plaintiffs I do not know? Sure, I could bet I'm the best but I       still only said "some" are lesser wordsmiths though I do       appreciate Canada's exaggerated compliment.              11. CR: Canada is of the view that its motion would therefore       be most expeditiously and least expensively determined in       writing.              12. If you contemplate the time spent by the filing clerks of       the Justice Department, the Court Registry, and time spent by       self-represented Plaintiffs, it would seem the most       expeditious and least expensive determination of the motion       would be live.              13. CR: he does not identify any issues raised by Canada's       motion that cannot be adequately addressed in writing or       explain why the plaintiffs would be better able to address       those issues at an oral hearing.              14. Though Canada cannot see why lesser wordsmiths would be       better able to address those issues at an oral hearing than in       writing, I hope this Court does.              TOO EXPENSIVE              15. CR: An oral hearing of Canada's motion in these       circumstances would consume considerable judicial and party       resources and would post significant logistical challenges              16. JCT: An oral hearing of Canada's motion was easily handled       at the last live hearing. I think Canada insults the Registry       to suggest it can no longer perform its function as       efficiently as it did before.              MUTUAL DATES              17. CR: including, in particular, the identification of a       hearing date that is mutually agreeable to all parties.              18.For the last hearing, Justice Phelan didn't need anyone's       consent on mutual dates before fixing a time of hearing. We       were told when to show up. I would suggest the Court avail       itself of the same power to set hearing dates with no concern       about any desires, whether mutual or not, of the parties.              OBJECTION TO "IN WRITING" IN MOTION              19. Rule 369(2) provides that a respondent objecting to a       motion in writing may indicate its objection in its responding       motion materials. Rather than follow the objection procedure       contemplated in the Rules, the plaintiff has now filed a       letter in which he requests, purportedly on behalf of more       than 300 plaintiffs, that Canada's motion proceed orally.              JCT: The Crown has been proceeding by way of Letters to the       Registry rather than the motions required under Rule 308, I       simply proceeded in the same unauthorized was as they       pioneered.              CR: The request is improper. Canada therefore reiterates its       request that the motion proceed in writing.              JCT: As the Crown points out, Rule 369(2) provides that a       respondent objecting to a motion in writing may indicate its       objection in its responding motion materials so this request       to deny an oral hearing now is premature.              ________________________________       John C. Turmel, B.Eng.,       50 Brant Ave., Brantford, N3T 3G7,       Tel/Fax: 519-753-5122, Cell: 519-717-5198       Email: johnturmel@yahoo.com              CC: Jon Bricker, Ministry of Justice       For the Defendant.              JCT: What do you think? Will Phelan grant their premature       request or wait for my motion?              I think consenting to the consolidation will sure shut them up       about my "representing" anyone else.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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