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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Crown wants 300 Gold Stars' to f    |
|    16 May 16 18:15:51    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              John C. Turmel, B.Eng.,       50 Brant Ave.,       Brantford, N3T 3G7,       Tel/Fax: 519-753-5122,       Cell: 519-717-5198              May 17 2016       VIA FASCIMILE              Registries of the Federal Court       90 Sparks St. 5th floor       Ottawa K1A 0H9              Dear Sir/Madam:              Re: John C. Turmel v. HMTQ T-488-14              CR: In his letter dated May 6 2016, the plaintiff requests       leave to serve Canada with future materials via email, as well       as dispensation from the proof of service requirements       contained in the Federal Court Rules. He purports to make both       requests on behalf of more than 300 plaintiffs.              JCT: Plaintiff seeks not dispensation with proof of service       but alternate proof of service by email header.              CR: Canada's email servers are subject to strict data size       limits,              JCT: What data size limit. Is 200-300 kilobytes too big?              CR: which would likely be quickly exceeded if the plaintiffs       were to begin serving materials by email.              JCT: Plaintiff Electrical Engineer doubts their unknown data       size limits would be exceeded by my 250k kilobyte email.              CR: Although Canada recently requested and was granted leave       to electronically serve motion materials on the plaintiffs,       Canada was able to do so via a single email to all plaintiffs       which did not count significantly toward the data size limits.              JCT: Plaintiff would like to do so via a single email back       too. As for the still unknown data size limits, why would the       limit be plural? Canada's Motion Record was 1.112 Megabytes.       My Motion Record would be 4 to 5 times smaller. So no matter       how much the Crown lawyers would like to believe that their       data size limits would "likely be quickly exceeded" if the       plaintiffs were to begin serving 250Kb materials by email, 300       times 250Kb is 75Mb total, hardly an insurmountable number.       With a 2 Terabyte commercial drive costing $130, 15 Gigabytes       per dollar, 150 Megabytes per cent, so 75Mb storage would cost       0.5 cents. Plaintiff submits Canada is overly concerned over a       half penny expense. And it's probably cheaper on a Justice       Ministry mainframe.              CR: By contrast, the plaintiff's request could result in       Canada receiving more than 300 emails, each attaching a       Responding Motion Record.              JCT: Plaintiff submits that receiving more than 300 paper       Motion Records and scanning them to PDF is more work for all,       including the Registry, than receiving them as PDFs?              CR: As the plaintiff has identified no reason why he cannot       serve Canada and prove service in accordance with the ordinary       rules, Canada requests that the Court not grant the leave       requested by the plaintiff.              JCT: Plaintiff claims the same reason as Canada for wanting to       use email , to avoid inconvenience and expense. What would be       the purpose of having 300 self-represented plaintiffs running       round delivering the same form 300 times when Canada has been       freed from such wasted expense? Canada has now set the       precedent, Plaintiffs seek the same cost-reduced service from       the court?              _________________________________       John C. Turmel              CC: Jon Bricker, Ministry of Justice Fax: 416-973-0809       For the Defendant.              JCT: Lawyers think half-a-penny's worth of storage could swamp       their servers! Har har har har har har har har har har har       har.              Don't worry, this is the Response no one else but me is       serving anyway. I'd just like to skip the trip to Toronto       since they skipped the trip to Brantford.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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