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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Response to Crown on dismiss Gol    |
|    24 May 16 11:27:37    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              TURMEL: Response to Crown on dismiss Gold Star MedPot damages claims              JCT: Here are the written representations I served and filed       this morning that refute the Crown's motion to dismiss our       Gold Star claims.              At this stage, I'm going after BENO in a summary judgment       motion. You don't have to. Your only real concern is your       claim for damages.              The Crown asked and was granted permission to serve and file       their motion record by email but when I asked for us self-       represented Plaintiffs, I got no answer before deadline and       had to go to Toronto to serve and file by paper.              And Judge Phelan expects everyone else to have run around to       file a clone by today. Just making 300 sick people jump       through hoops he let the Crown avoid.              I told him I was going to a file a response to the motion to       all 300 and not to expect 300 identical responses. So the real       question is whether Phelan will do a dirty deed and knock out       everyone who didn't file a response on a technicality.              Then it will be worth doing a kit for appeals. So here is our       response to the Crown's cheap shot:               File No: T-488-14        FEDERAL COURT       BETWEEN:        HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN        Applicant        and        JOHN C. TURMEL        Respondent        WRITTEN REPRESENTATIONS              CR: Canada              MOTION IN WRITING              1. In other correspondence, Canada seeks to have all 310       applications dismissed in writing, this to prevent lesser       wordsmiths from being heard at a live hearing. Contemplating       the time spent by the filing clerks of the Justice Department,       the Court Registry, and time spent by self-represented       Plaintiffs, it would seem the most expeditious and least       expensive determination of the motion would be at a televised       hearing as before.              2. CR: An oral hearing of Canada's motion in these       circumstances would consume considerable judicial and party       resources and would post significant logistical challenges              3. An oral hearing of Canada's motion was easily handled at       the last live hearing. I think Canada insults the Registry to       suggest it can no longer perform its function as efficiently       as it did before.              4. CR: including, in particular, the identification of a       hearing date that is mutually agreeable to all parties.              5. At the last April 29 2014 hearing, Justice Phelan didn't       need anyone's consent on mutual dates before fixing a time of       hearing. We were told when to show up. I would suggest the       Court avail itself of the same power to set hearing dates with       no concern about any desires, whether mutual or not, of the       parties.              CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE MOOTED BY ALLARD              6. Canada repeats several times that Plaintiff's Actions do       not allege "any facts capable of supporting the constitutional       challenge." "Absent these material facts, Canada cannot       meaningfully respond.. and this Court cannot properly consider       the Charter issues." "The claims also fail entirely to address       the material elements of the Charter causes of action       alleged." "nor any facts capable of supporting the       constitutional violations alleged."              7. Canada was granted a stay because "Federal Court (Crampton       C.J.) observed that the Allard injunction motion and "Turmel       Kit" claims raised "the very same issues.""              8. Canada now repeatedly argues that "the repeal of the MMAR       and striking-down of the MMPR has rendered the requested       declarations moot." So the Charter issue was settled by       Allard. Since the constitutional claim has been mooted by its       granting in Allard, there is no need to present facts to       establish Charter violations that are "very close, if not       identical," to theirs. With no Charter issue left, the Allard       Court handled the material facts for the group, did properly       consider the charter facts, the reason the Crown argued in       their stay we would not have to do it too. And now they plead       we don't have the facts to argue it again?              9. In Allard, Canada bore the costs of their loss. Now for our       claim "on the very same issues," Canada asks that we bear the       cost of our win. Respondent submits that Canada should bear       the costs associated with our successful claim for the       constitutional declaration.              10. CR: 26. In constitutional cases, the Supreme Court of       Canada has also called on courts to remain sensitive to their       role as the adjudicative branch in our political framework,       and to avoid pronouncing on matters that will not affect the       rights of the parties..              11. The rights sought in our applications have been determined       in Allard. No need for us to do it again. We want remedies for       the declaration of unconstutionality, not for another       declaration again.              12. CR: that may be seen as intruding into the role of the       legislative branch.              13. Judging whether Plaintiffs were damaged by past       legislation can not intrude into the role of Parliament in       future legislation.              OTHER REMEDIES NOT MOOTED              14. "Phelan J. noted the "substantial overlap" between the       Allard litigation and "Turmel Kit" claims, and that the claims       sought relief that was "very close, if not identical" to one       another. Substantial overlap means there was some not       overlapped. Not overlapped issues remain unresolved.              NO PROHIBITION ABSENT EXEMPTION              15. CR: "Judicial comity precludes the requested relief from       the CDSA.. barred as a matter of judicial comity, similar       relief having been recently considered and denied by this       Court in Allard." "19. In declaring the MMPR invalid, Phelan       J. noted that he had also considered suspending the CDSA       provisions which make it an offence to possess, produce and       distribute marihuana. However, he declined to do so, noting       that the reading-down of the CDSA was a "blunt instrument       which may not be necessary if a Charter compliant regime were       put in place or different legislation passed."              16. Allard Counsel Kirk Tousaw's impromptu request to strike       "marijuana from Schedule II" with no foundation was not denied       on merit. "Blunt may not be necessary if.." doesn't mean       "Blunt is not necessary!" So there is no actual decision, just       a question. Canada has repeated labelled a "may not be" as a       "decision" mooting our remedy. Yet, Canada does not raise       "stare decisis" to prevent argument over decided issues,       Canada instead raises judicial "comity:"        Webster: 1. Mutual courtesy, civility. 2. "Comity of        Nations" courtesy between nations as in respect shown by        one country for the laws and institutions of another.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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