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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Crown reply to Jeff Harris Juice    |
|    29 Sep 16 12:16:20    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              JCT: Jeff Harris filed the argument all seven could have       filed. Here's the Crown's final Reply:               WRITTEN REPRESENTATIONS IN REPLY              CR: 1. Of the Plaintiffs in these seven proceedings, only one       - the plaintiff in Allan Harris v. HMTQ No. T-1194-16 - has       opposed Canada's motion to strike. Although this plaintiff       appears to suggest that he opposes Canada's motion on behalf       of his co-plaintiffs, his co-plaintiffs have not indicated       agreement with his position and, not being a solicitor, the       plaintiff is not authorized to represent them.              A. THE MOTION SHOULD PROCEED IN WRITING              2. The plaintiffs in these seven claims are located in British       Columbia, Manitoba, Ontario. In light of the number of parties       and the logistical challenges and judicial resources likely       tobe involved in attempting to schedule and conduct an oral       hearing for seven plaintiffs in three different provinces,       Canada brought its motion in writing.              JCT: On April 29 2014, the Court managed to conduct an oral       hearing for 270 plaintiffs in 10 provinces in 12 courthouses.       And now they're stumped by 7 plaintiffs in 3 provinces? Har       har har har har har.              CR: 3. Although the plaintiff now requests an oral hearing of       Canada's motion, he has not identififed a substantial reason       why Canada's motion should proceed in that manner.              JCT: At a live hearing, you can ascertain the judge isn't       blind.              CR: Although he suggests that the motion concerns a "life-and-       death issue," the plaintiff has provided no evidence of this,       nor has he explained why that issue cannot be adequately       addressed in writing.              JCT: Can't tell that the judge isn't blind.              CR: The issues raised by the motion are not overly complex or       novel, and do not turn on witness credibility or other factors       that are best addressed orally. This motion should accordingly       proceed in writing.              JCT: Best in writing because... Oh, he forgot to include a       reason other than it's what he wants.              CR: B. THE FACTS PLEADED ARE INSUFFICIENT TO GROUND THE CLAIMS              JCT: Wonder if he comes up with a reason.              CR: 4. The plaintiff suggests that the material facts to his       claim have already been established in R. v. Parker [2000] and       R. v. Smith and argues that the plaintiffs therefore "don't       have to prove it again." However, his claim also fails       entirely to address the subsequent legislative enactments that       have attempted to address the concerns raised in those cases.       For example, the claim contains no facts concerning any       attempts by the plaintiff to access cannabis derivatives from       commercial licensed producers, who are expressly authorized       under the current Access to Cannabis for Medical Purposes       Regulations to produce and sellcannabis derivatives to       medically authorized individuals.              5. To the extent that facts may be required, the plaintiff       further submits that these facts will be provided in "upcoming       affidavit evidence." This statement ignores the fundamental       role of pleadings in framing the issues between the parties.       It is not sufficient for a party to plead a cause of action       will be revealed later.              JCT: Notice that the Action was cloned in the identical       format for the Allard Statement of Claim.              CR: Facts capable of supporting each element of a cause of       action must instead be clearly pleaded in advance. the       plaintiff having failed to plead these material facts, the       proper course is for this court to strike his cliam, without       leave to amend.              JCT: Gee, the only fact mentioned in the Action was that the       plaintiff would prove he was licensed for the right to juice       and there is no access to juice. They have to argue against       not getting any juice by ignoring there is none to demand what       attempts were made to obtain from no source.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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