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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Judge Ritchie reserves decision     |
|    17 Feb 17 04:37:16    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              JCT: I attended Shawn Tedder's Quash motion hearing in Toronto       yesterday, Judge Ritchie presiding. It is slated for 2 days.              Of course, there was the problem of "pre-plea" or "after       plea." So the judge put off the plea to deal with the Election       first and was told that Shawn intended to stand mute under       S.606 of the Criminal Code when asked to plead so the judge       would instruct the clerk to enter "not guilty." And then he       would stand mute when asked to elect 1) Provincial Court       Judge, 2) Superior Court Judge, 3) Superior Court with Jury so       the judge would have to enter "Judge and Jury."              During those morning discussions, the judge realized that he       was going to have to deal with the Quash motion first. So over       the lunch period, he said he had read the motion and the       Crown's Factum in response.              So the judge heard the Quash Motion before any plea. If Shawn       had pleaded first, then he wouldn't be able to raise the Quash       Motion any more without the leave of the judge because he       didn't do it pre-trial as he was supposed to.              So Shawn just told him that he had 6 judges who had followed       the Parker decision that the Prohibition Invalid Absent valid       Exemption: in J.P., 1) Provincial Judge Phillip, 2) Superior       Justice Rogin, SCO, and Court of Appeal Justices 3) Doherty,       4) Goudge and 5) Simmons all ruled Prohibition Invalid Absent       Exemption. And Superior Justice 6) Taliano in Mernagh struck       down the S.4 Possession and S.7 Production offences after       striking down the MMAR for insufficient doctors.              The Crown had cited a couple of dozen judges who had failed to       follow Parker. After striking down the flaws in the MMAR/MMPR,       Hitzig, Sfetkopoulos, Beren, Smith and Allard did not follow       Parker to declare the prohibitions invalid while the exemption       wasn't working. Parker only works once!!!              Shawn's punch line: I hope you'll be the seventh judge to       follow Parker.              The judge was extremely pleasant, everyone was. He reserved       his decision and said the court would reconvene not at 10am as       planned but at 11am. He knows that either way, it'll be quick       tomorrow. Shawn gets off or he gets sent to Superior Court.              So we can say a prayer that Judge Ritchie chooses to be the       seventh judge to follow Parker. Terry was in the courtroom so       when his case was raised, Shawn got to point him out. And when       my case got raised (the S.5(2) "intent to possess" never       struck down even if Parker struck S.4 possession and Krieger       struck S.7 cultivation at the time. I got convicted of       intending to possess something not illegal!!!              So decision tomorrow. Stay tuned.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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