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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Rene Ouellet Motion to Annul tri    |
|    02 Jun 17 19:43:34    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              JCT: Rene was in Quebec City Provincial Court for the       continuation of his trial.              He's been fighting to be sent for jury trial in Superior       Court having been erroneously re-opted below to have his Quash       Motion heard which resulted in his jury trial being replaced       by a regular 1-judge trial below.              He had filed a motion for Certiorari to take the file from       lower court to higher court which was dismissed. Then he filed       an appeal which was dismissed because he should have first       asked to annul his re-option.              During the hearing, Judge Johanne Roy said that she'd gotten a       copy of the Court of Appeal decision and when she read them       saying he should have asked to annul, she said she expected       he'd be filing the motion to annul. And then he did.              So she also understands that dismissing it takes the whole       Certiorari route once again and she even commented that       sending him above saved everyone all that effort. Looks good.              But she talked Rene into taking a month to go talk to a real       lawyer. Sure, no problem, as long as he explains to the lawyer       that he's guilty with an Agreed Statement of Facts, so what       could a Defence lawyer do for him. When the answer is nothing,       then it makes sense to go with the Offence Engineer. If the       law ain't dead, he's guilty.              I had prepared him a Motion for Certiorari if she refused.       Didn't need it.              But I also prepared a Notice of Appeal of Conviction and       Motion for Release Pending Appeal in case she pushed through       with the trial. After all, she didn't need the Crown's       evidence, she had his Agreed Statement of Facts!              The Crown for the constitutional motion, Mr. Pare, was there       and wanted to make the case to have the Charter Motion thrown       out like Adrian Stuerm's was thrown out. Ah, but Adrian had       filed a challenge to the MMAR and Rene has filed the updated       challenge to all 3 regimes. But she could dismiss it for       whatever reason and then demand his defence. None. Guilty and       gone.              So I made sure he had the Notice of Appeal and Motion for       Release Pending Appeal ready to serve on the Crown so Ray       could go file it right away and Rene could be out 3 days       later. Unlike poor Adrian who had to use Canada Post when the       Court of Appeal didn't accept Inmate Appeals by fax!              But the judge is starting to sound like it'll be too much       bother to try him below, plus she'll have to deal with the       Charter Motion, he the judge appealed from, and she can duck       confrontation with me by sending him where he wants to go.              Besides, the trial isn't even started yet. She was acting as       any judge of first instance when she dismissed the Quash       Motion. She still hasn't taken his plea so she does not yet       have Trial Judge jurisdiction until he pleads. So since it's       not interrupting any trial, just kick the hot potato upstairs.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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