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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: 3 Montreal MedPot Musketeers pla    |
|    11 Jun 17 09:00:37    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              Max, Martin and Eric face 2 different tests on Tuesday June       20 in Montreal Superior Court at 1 Notre Dame #6.02 9am.              They're slated to handle both the Quash and the Charter       Motions. The Quash Motion has to go first before he pleads.       The Charter Motion has to go after he pleads. Can he plead       before there is a jury?              I don't know if he can be made to plead before a jury has been       called. In the case of Nicola Fontana, his Quash was dismissed       by Justice David and later, a jury was empaneled before his       Charter was dealt with.              So maybe, only the Quash Motion can be dealt with before a       jury is called. I don't know.              The Crown has asked to have an earlier hearing to dismiss the       Charter motion before June 20 but there's no jury being called       on June 20 anyway, so why do they want to nix the       Charter before the date set for them to try to nix it. Why       push for earlier? Notice the Court hasn't granted them an       advanced hearing, yet, and we're only 9 days away from the       date set for the actual hearing of the motions. Duh?              So Max's arguments are easy:              QUASH              Ontario Court of Appeal Parker[2000]:       S.4(1) Possession Prohibition Invalid Absent Exemption              Alberta Court of Appeal Krieger[2003]:       S.7(1) Production Prohibition Invalid Absent Exemption              Ontario Court of Appeal Hitzig[2003]:       MMAR Exemption Absent from Aug 1 2001, fixed Oct 7 2003.              Ontario Court of Appeal J.P.[2003]:       Prohibition Invalid Absent Exemption: Charge quashed.       Between Aug 1 2001 and Oct 7 2003, the absence of viable       exemption in the MMAR rendered the prohibitions on S.4(1)       Possession and S.7(1) Production of Cannabis of no force and       effect and 4,000 more charges dropped while the exemption was       absent in Dec 2003. "Prohibition Invalid Absent Exemption."              On Feb 24 2016, Federal Court ruled in Allard that the MMPR       Exemption that came into force on April 1 2014 was       unconstitutional, such declaration taking effect Aug 24 2016       when the MMPR was replaced by the ACMPR.              We were charged on Oct 23 2014 while the Allard decision said       the MMPR exemption was unconstitutional. As when the Hitzig       decision ruled the exemption absent, the prohibitions were       invalid when we were charged as it was invalid when J.P. was       charged.              If that is dismissed, for whatever reason, probably "Others       have dismissed and I'm just following the herd" despite the       fact that 9 judges have followed Parker, then we have to use       the charter challenge to kill the exemption anew.                     CHARTER              When the Crown tries to throw out his "Mernagh Plus Why"       Charter Motion which happens to also include allegations of       violations in more than a dozen more sections of the three       exemption regimes, each being based on the previous, the only       thing he needs to get them all in is to first get his Mernagh       Plus in.              That's the great injustice that has to come out of any reports       on the case. That Mernagh originally won proving just that the       doctors weren't participating, to then be overturned because       it wasn't established whether the doctors had no medical       reasons, Max's patients do, and then have the Ontario Crown       stay the charges so it can't be won again.              It is reasonable to argue that our analogous motion which was       completely permissible in Ontario be heard with the extra       evidence that had been adjudged lacking to sustain Mernagh's       win that striking down the S.4 and S.7 prohibitions on       possession and production whilc the exemption was defective.              So that's it. How come Ontario could put on patient evidence       of an illusory exemption if doctors won't sign and not Quebec       with the why of Why they won't sign.              That's it. That's their whole hand. Two cards.       Quash because of Parker-Allard;       Charter allowed because of Mernagh Plus Why.              June 20 should be a great show starting with the Quash and       maybe the Charter unless it has to be put off to await the       jury selection first.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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