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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Guy Poitier Prelim Inquiry; Quas    |
|    23 Jun 17 08:09:33    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              JCT: Madame Justice Lepage, a new judge presiding in Cour du       Quebec.              Guy Potier was busted with 8 plants so he's facing a 6-month       mandatory minimum. So he filed his Quash, it was put off to be       heard today before the preliminary inquiry but the judge said       the indictment does not exist until after the Preliminary       Inquiry and the Quash would have to wait for the indictment.              This seems silly. Imagine that all the evidence says the grow       was at 100 Main St. Sometown but the indictment says 102 Main.       How can they present evidence about 100 Main without fixing       the typo about 102 Main first? The S.601 amendment has to be       heard before the Preliminary Inquiry or no evidence would be       admissible.              When Guy insisted on going forward, the Crown announced they       were laying 2 more charges with mandatory minima. Not only did       he grow 8 plants but he had a little resin, trichomes, and oil       which also have mandatory minima of 1-year.              The Crown says they requested the Preliminary Inquiry to give       them time to get the drug analysis certificates for those       other charges. But they'd already served him with the drug       analysis as part of disclosure last october. So they had the       certificates during his last hearings and didn't bring them       up. Only now do they bring them up to extra punish him for his       intransigence. And to avoid looking like it's retaliation,       they said the late charges were because they were waiting for       the certificates (they already had since last October.              Ray says Judge Lepage looked aghast at them adding two more 1-       year mandatory minimi to his already unconscionable 6-month       minimum for 8 plants. Think about that, 8 plants and they're       going for two 1-year and a 6-month mandatory minimum. Quite       the overkill for a case that fits right in with Elliott       decrying what would happen to small growers nearer the 5-plant       limit.              And they had the certificates all along and know what they're       doing is so vile, they have to lie to cover the reason for the       late charges.              When he offered to agree to the facts, the Crown didn't want       it because it wouldn't contain any admissions about the other       charges. So he accepted to own up to possessing the resin and       oil. So the Crown had to buckle and accept his confession.              But the judge didn't waste time looking at any evidence of his       crimes, she just asked if he agreed that there was sufficient       evidence to bind him for trial. Yes. Fine.              Then the judge erred by moving on to the election. She was       supposed to deal with the motion to amend the indictment       before sending it up unfixed. So like Rene Ouellet, the higher       judge can send it back down to be fixed.              She went straight to Election. He kind of mumbled "Trial by       Judge and Jury" and Ray coughed loud enough that the judge       suggested that Guy consult with Ray about that. She must have       thought Ray was going to advise against a jury and so she must       have been surprised when he returned and said: I stand mute.              Okay, she said, trial by judge and jury and sent it on to the       assises on Sep 18 in Salaberry-de-Valleyfield, probably by       Justice David again.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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