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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Acquitted of Production! Double     |
|    11 Aug 17 06:49:48    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.fan.john-turmel/MK2VMFCgLfU       is my last post relating how Adrian Stuerm was convicted of       having producing 65 marijuana plants in his garage and       sentenced to the mandatory 6-month jail sentence. His wife       Caroline was acquitted since there was no evidence she did       anything but we all know how the cops love to bust family       members to help coerce pleas.              But, on the very same facts, they were also charged with       having possessed what they had produced. Since the jury found       no evidence to convict her of production, she moved to quash       the charge for "double jeopardy."              Yesterday, in St-Jerome Quebec, Judge Marc Andre Dagenais       agreed with the lady Crown Attorney that dismissing the charge       for "autrefois acquit" (in Canada; double jeopardy elsewhere)       had to be done only by the Trial Judge.              To give the Crown a chance to have an expensive Preliminary       Inquiry of all the witnesses presenting evidence before       finding out if there is even going to be a trial. Har har har       har har har. The trial may only be aborted for double jeopardy       after all the judges, bailiffs, clerks and cops handling the       preliminaries have been paid!              Justice in Wonderland. We've seen it repeatedly. So the next       hearing in order to organize the Preliminary Inquiry to       present the evidence for the possession charge that may not       be even needed is on Aug 29.              So the real question is whether the "autrefois acquit" really       can't be dealt with by a judge of first instance. I'm not       taking the word of a judge avoiding a hot potato who thought       about it for 2 minutes. Judges will throw out anything that       sounds good even when they have no clue.              Another clueless judge who told is going to take a beating in       Tim McConnell his Quash Motion needed a Notice of       Constitutional Question sent to Provincial Attorney Generals       to be heard, he's going back with the transcript from Marie-       Eve's case where the Crown told the later Court that after Ray       paid for service to them of a Notice of NO Constitutional       Question, the Federal Crown had written to tell them that they       saw nothing constitutional in a S.601 motion and weren't       coming. Har har har.              And now another judge expects Tim to serve his Notice of NO       constitutional question. Instead he's going back with the       transcript saying that if the Feds don't want it, maybe he       doesn't have to do it and his last judge was wrong like Marie-       Eve's had been and he didn't want to waste his money too.              Wonder what the next judge is going to say? Sustain the       earlier judge who insisted he serve a Notice the Crown itself       says isn't necessary or admit he was wrong!              As for Caroline, who knows, maybe Certiorari can take       jurisdiction away from this court that thinks they can't deal       with it before everyone gets paid and bring it to a higher       court, like Rene Ouellet did in Quebec City and may even do       again if Judge Roy doesn't send him to jury trial above in       September 15.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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