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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: Start Grow on Day 1 after ACMPR    
   28 Sep 17 09:52:34   
   
   From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   JCT: So now we know Health Canada changed the expiry date   
   rules for exemptions which shortens renewals as well as   
   shortening the original exemption.   
      
   But though it is used to hurt the patients, now that we know,   
   we can turn the tables and use it to our advantage.   
      
   Here's the situation:   
      
   Someone gets their medical document and sends in his   
   application the same day. If there's no paperwork glitch,   
   the exemption will be dated back to the doctor's signing on   
   Day 1.   
      
   He starts his grow op on the Day 1 after he mailing his   
   application. You have to be able to say "it's on the way."   
      
   Before he gets his exemption dating back to Day 1, he's one of   
   the 1/100 who gets busted.   
      
   Before his trial, he gets his exemption showing he was   
   exempted on the date of the bust! What's the Crown going to   
   do? His exemption permit proves medical need on Day 1 just as   
   the doctor proved medical need on Day 1.   
      
   So, given they now back-date the exemption to Day 1, I see no   
   illegality in planting your garden on Day 1 even before the   
   back-dated paperwork arrives. If it were still like the MMAR   
   when date of issuance ruled, sure. But date of signature?!!   
      
   Even if there were an error that had to be corrected and you   
   have to refile a second time, eventually, the doctor's letter   
   will get you exempted back to Day 1 anyway. Can't be stopped.   
      
   So if you're going to be exempted to Day 1 when you get it,   
   just show your application to any cops and claim you're   
   exempted even if the paperwork hasn't yet caught up. You're   
   not exempted from the day you receive it in the mail, you're   
   exempted months before on the day HC says you're exempted, Day   
   1.   
      
   So they tried to screw the patients with long processing   
   delays as well as shorter exemption periods before renewal by   
   changing it from Issuance Date to Doctor Sign Date. But we can   
   turn it to our advantage so people who send it in can just   
   start growing knowing they'll end up exempted back to Day 1!   
      
   So, in changing the date rules to screw the patients, Health   
   Canada have opened up the option of starting your grow on Day   
   1, the date your exemption will be started! Har har har har   
   har har.   
      
   So if you sent it in, you know your exemption is on the way   
   to cover you from Day 1. So what are you waiting for? Har har   
   har.   
      
   Always realize that an eager Barney (Deputy Barney Fife) might   
   still decide to charge you and destroy your grow but you'll   
   get your seized pot back and can sue for the damage to the   
   plants at $1,000/plant.   
      
   Har har har har har har. What a great judo move. They came on   
   offence and end up thrown. Tried to hut hurt us and we can use   
   it to help us.   
      
   So if you do start on Day 1, have a copy of your Application   
   posted near the door with a copy of a Quash Kit and Charter   
   Kit too. Just tell the cop you will be exempted back to now   
   once the bureaucracy catches up. But if he wants to waste   
   everyone's time and maybe pay for the $1,000 plants, go ahead.   
      
   I do not recommend this lightly. Crown could argue I am   
   counselling to commit a crime. But you know they'll exempt you   
   back to Day 1 so what crime are you committing in failing to   
   wait for proof of exemption that happens to be in force since   
   Day 1.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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