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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: Justice checking change for expi   
   27 Sep 17 12:25:13   
   
   From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   JCT: Note that after promising process within 6-8 weeks,   
   Health Canada let Dylan McAmmond's expire. Should he refile   
   for a new exemption? Here's how Health Canada are covering   
   that up and how I propose to expose them.   
      
   Here are a few recent responses about others who filed within   
   8 weeks but had their exemptions expire. Keep in mind, they're   
   supposed to destroy all their plants and stored medicine and   
   start over when the permit arrives or risk being busted. And I   
   know a guy who was busted while waiting for his expired   
   permit's renewal to arrive. So it happened.   
      
   Michael MacDonald   
   My buddy sent in 8 weeks early. It took 11 weeks total. They   
   back dated his renewal to when the Doctor signed it. This cut   
   into his time he was already exempt from his first approval a   
   year ago. So send in early does nothing, they still back date   
   your paperwork to the day the Doctor signed it.   
      
   JCT: And it covered up that they were late and put him on the   
   horns of the "Destroy or Risk Bust dilemma. Forget being   
   convicted, just the bust that destroys your grow and loses you   
   your medicine is death-defying punishment enough.   
   ---   
      
   Kerry O'Grady: Got my renewal in about 10 weeks.   
   John Turmel: Was it on time? How many weeks beyond their   
   recommended 6-8 weeks did you send it?   
   Kerry O'Grady: It was about 3 weeks late. Sent 8 weeks before   
   expiry.   
      
   JCT: So Kerry filed within the recommended time and Health   
   Canada let it expire and put him on the Horns of Dilemma.   
      
   Back to Denise. On Thursday, she filed her Motion for:   
      
   1) a personal constitutional exemption to continue growing   
   marijuana pursuant to the conditions in the expiring ACMPR   
   permit MCR-3261 until the Health Canada delivers the needed   
   renewal, or, in the alternative,   
      
   2) an extension of Applicant's expiring Exemption; or,   
      
   3) an Order of Mandamus that Health Canada immediately do its   
   duty not to violate Applicant's right to life by allowing the   
   exemption to expire before the renewal is issued and forcing   
   Applicant to destroy all plants and stored cannabis.   
      
   Ministry of Justice calls Health Canada to say they have a   
   Statement of Claim they have to deal with and ask if there's   
   any reason they haven't yet renewed her exemption.   
      
   HC says no particular reason other than we're late on almost   
   everyone. Justice says maybe not to be late on this one. So HC   
   bumps Denise to the top of the pile and she's issued the next   
   day. It's mailed out. But that will take time and there's the   
   motion coming up on Wednesday.   
      
   So Crown Kevin Palframan called the Court and then Ray to   
   organize an abandonment of the motion hearing. No problem, Ray   
   would consent. So Palframan went in this morning to tell the   
   Court that the exemption had been issued and mailed and that   
   Denise consented to abandonment of the motion. He indicated   
   that though she didn't yet have her new exemption, it was   
   officially on the computer and (get this) if there was a   
   problem, Respondent consented to the Court extending the   
   exemption until it arrived. Our Remedy #2.   
      
   What's great is that it establishes that they cede that the   
   Court extending the exemption is a valid remedy. Might not   
   even need to ask for a court-granted exemption since another   
   accepted line of relief always takes precedence over the court   
   having to do it in an extraordinary way.   
      
   And while discussing how he'll sign the consent form when it   
   arrived, Ray pointed out that Denise's exemption expiring on   
   Sep 29 was only being renewed to June 26 2018, a year after   
   the doctor signed the renewal form, not a year after expiry   
   like under the old MMAR.   
      
   So Ray put the Crown on the spot. Go find out who changed the   
   renewed expiry date from the regular yearly date to the   
   variable doctor signed date?   
      
   Someone had to change that policy. Under the MMAR, your   
   exemption expired on the same date all the time. Now, by only   
   extending it to a year after the doctor signed causes part of   
   this year's permit to be wasted. In effect, 33% more doctor   
   visits if 25% of permit is duplicated. Effectively, every   
   permit is for only 9 months and each year, the expiry date   
   gets advanced by the loss.   
      
   Worse, Colleen Harris is suing for the value of her   
   prescription past the MMAR's 4-week time for processing. They   
   took 28 weeks. If she sends in her renewal 12 weeks early, not   
   trusting their 6-8 week misdirection, she's only left with 12   
   weeks worth of a year's exemption! 3/4 of her year of   
   exemption is gone!   
      
   Have to give credit to Trudeau, not even sleazebag Harper   
   could have found a way to harm patients by cutting effective   
   time of exemption to maximize doctor costs.   
      
   As for the fools who fell for Reneger Trudeau #2, Pierre   
   reneged too, what he calls legalization will still have:   
   Cops versus Gardeners and Kids. All to hinder competition for   
   his corporate sponsors.   
      
   Remember, over 100K of Justin's Busteds after Reneger #2 got   
   elected to keep cops and lawyers busy. And it's not going to   
   stop. Trudeau is a family of Renegers. Sadly, he's an idiot,   
   believes it's warmer than when Greenland was green and vaccine   
   combinations are tested and safe. No problem with fluoride   
   either, says drop-out engineering failure.   
      
   But Health Canada is now on the spot. If they don't tell   
   Justice who changed the date rules, Ray won't get Denise to   
   sign the Consent and Kevin will have to swear out an affidavit   
   that Ray told he would to explain why he told the court so and   
   hasn't produced the Consent. They Ray gets to go in and make a   
   stink about the date and who changed the rules before ceding   
   he had agreed and would now consent.   
      
   So we're on the hunt for the sumbitch who changed the rules to   
   short-change all those new applications by all the months they   
   managed to stall processing and then the months spent   
   processing the 1st renewal, Colleen the optimal example.   
      
   And who costs every renewal after that to lose the time   
   duplicated by the process period. Basically, moving the expiry   
   date ahead every time. Wonder if Trudeau dreamed that up   
   himself or if the guy who dreamed up letting LPs cancel   
   permits for a business reason and then not letting LPs return   
   the medical documents so they can go to another LP. Sounds   
   like the same evil gremlin again.   
      
   But we're on the trail. The old MMAR was year to year with   
   renewals not advancing expiry dates. Who changed it so   
   renewals would advance expiry dates and short change the   
   patients with more necessary medical documents.   
      
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