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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: Peter Vigna gets Hop-To-It FULL     |
|    09 Mar 18 08:53:54    |
      From: johnturmel@yahoo.com              TURMEL: Peter Vigna gets Hop-To-It FULL TERM Pot Grow Permit!!              JCT: I remember back in 1988 when I was charged with       assaulting a moderator after he had grabbed me and ended up       on the floor. Caption: John Turmel has the microphone, Larry       Motuz has the floor!              I had a videotape of the event showing him grabbing me       first. But since I was the one charged, I was going to have       to wait until for whole process of the trial to present it       as a defence.              So I made a motion to quash, technically wrong because there       was no defect on the face of the indictment, assault is a       valid charge, unlike marijuana possession, but it still got       me in front of a judge to beef.              The Judge was Bernie Ryan who had convicted me for       possession of a deck of cards in the early days, (couldn't       use keeping a gaming house, it was a 1-night stand so I'm       the last man in Canada convicted of possession of a       "gambling device," to wit: "cards." I even brought store-       bought poker chips, cards, roulette wheels, dice and       wondered about those gambling devices. Nothing Bernie could       do. Tiny fine, I think.              So after I explain that the only reason I was the one       charged when he had been the aggressor was because they were       charging me with trespassing (should have waited for a cop,       can't arrest me yourself) and cop figured, ergo, I must have       been the aggressor. I told the judge I had the videotape I'd       show at trial. But it wasn't right I live under the stain of       being an assaulter. I beat up their brains, bodies when they       insist.              So Bernie said he had no power to help but then turned to       Crown Bernard Dandyk and said: Why can't you look at the       darned tape." Bernard said he would, did, and withdrew the       charge later in the afternoon. So a judge may not have any       official power but can surely be persuasive.              So when Justice Brown demanded on Jan 5 that Canada explain       in their response by this upcoming Monday why the back-       dating of permits, they knew they were caught. But one would       have thought a fix by Monday would have had to take some       legislation!! Some kind of documentation.              Feb 28, 2018, Peter Vigna got tired of waiting for his       permit and Luc Lapierre helped him file a Statement of Claim       T-398-18. Yesterday, he received his permit dated Mar 3, he       said on Facebook:              Peter Vigna: just got my permit from HC and i got my court       papers with the gold mark what do i do now?              JCT: Cute, gets his Gold Star copy of his claim for damages       over delay on the same day they stop the damages!              John Turmel: Just sit back and see if you get your full term       back. Not bad. Filed Feb 28th, Issued March 3. No motion       needed. What's the effective date?              Peter Vigna: expiry is mar 3 of next year look like a full       term but ill still need to see my doc in oct.              Peter Howard: This might have been the moment Health Canada       threw in the towel. How can they give one guy full term and       not give it to all?              Peter Vigna they told me they received my app on nov 3              JCT: Nov 3 to Mar 3 is 4 months, 3 months of not-grown herb       due in damages.              John Turmel: so sit tight and hope the judge is offended at       the violations caused by short-staffing! ACE: Could not be a       problem with over-staffing, right?              Final point, over 70 people have filed Statements of Claim       and only 21 had to file motions to speed up their permits.       The motions did make them hop-to-it. But it also means that       Health Canada hopped to it in time for all the others who       did not need to file motions. I remember Luc reporting three       guys all processed in under 7 days.              But Luc had reported that someone had told him that they had       received their full term too. I think that that is       validation enough that someone at HC changed the policy of       registration upon doctor signing to registration upon       issuance.              So there's a good chance their Monday motion will be to       strike our Cause of Action B as mooted by the new policy.       And that new permits will be issued reflecting the time       restituted.              And they'll have to do it for all 90,000. But only you Gold       Stars will have a paper showing that you asked for what they       ceded. Won't that be a great trophy, of a win, not just a       try!              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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