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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: Peter Vigna gets Hop-To-It FULL    
   09 Mar 18 08:53:54   
   
   From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   TURMEL: Peter Vigna gets Hop-To-It FULL TERM Pot Grow Permit!!   
      
   JCT: I remember back in 1988 when I was charged with   
   assaulting a moderator after he had grabbed me and ended up   
   on the floor. Caption: John Turmel has the microphone, Larry   
   Motuz has the floor!   
      
   I had a videotape of the event showing him grabbing me   
   first. But since I was the one charged, I was going to have   
   to wait until for whole process of the trial to present it   
   as a defence.   
      
   So I made a motion to quash, technically wrong because there   
   was no defect on the face of the indictment, assault is a   
   valid charge, unlike marijuana possession, but it still got   
   me in front of a judge to beef.   
      
   The Judge was Bernie Ryan who had convicted me for   
   possession of a deck of cards in the early days, (couldn't   
   use keeping a gaming house, it was a 1-night stand so I'm   
   the last man in Canada convicted of possession of a   
   "gambling device," to wit: "cards." I even brought store-   
   bought poker chips, cards, roulette wheels, dice and   
   wondered about those gambling devices. Nothing Bernie could   
   do. Tiny fine, I think.   
      
   So after I explain that the only reason I was the one   
   charged when he had been the aggressor was because they were   
   charging me with trespassing (should have waited for a cop,   
   can't arrest me yourself) and cop figured, ergo, I must have   
   been the aggressor. I told the judge I had the videotape I'd   
   show at trial. But it wasn't right I live under the stain of   
   being an assaulter. I beat up their brains, bodies when they   
   insist.   
      
   So Bernie said he had no power to help but then turned to   
   Crown Bernard Dandyk and said: Why can't you look at the   
   darned tape." Bernard said he would, did, and withdrew the   
   charge later in the afternoon. So a judge may not have any   
   official power but can surely be persuasive.   
      
   So when Justice Brown demanded on Jan 5 that Canada explain   
   in their response by this upcoming Monday why the back-   
   dating of permits, they knew they were caught. But one would   
   have thought a fix by Monday would have had to take some   
   legislation!! Some kind of documentation.   
      
   Feb 28, 2018, Peter Vigna got tired of waiting for his   
   permit and Luc Lapierre helped him file a Statement of Claim   
   T-398-18. Yesterday, he received his permit dated Mar 3, he   
   said on Facebook:   
      
   Peter Vigna: just got my permit from HC and i got my court   
   papers with the gold mark what do i do now?   
      
   JCT: Cute, gets his Gold Star copy of his claim for damages   
   over delay on the same day they stop the damages!   
      
   John Turmel: Just sit back and see if you get your full term   
   back. Not bad. Filed Feb 28th, Issued March 3. No motion   
   needed. What's the effective date?   
      
   Peter Vigna: expiry is mar 3 of next year look like a full   
   term but ill still need to see my doc in oct.   
      
   Peter Howard: This might have been the moment Health Canada   
   threw in the towel. How can they give one guy full term and   
   not give it to all?   
      
   Peter Vigna they told me they received my app on nov 3   
      
   JCT: Nov 3 to Mar 3 is 4 months, 3 months of not-grown herb   
   due in damages.   
      
   John Turmel: so sit tight and hope the judge is offended at   
   the violations caused by short-staffing! ACE: Could not be a   
   problem with over-staffing, right?   
      
   Final point, over 70 people have filed Statements of Claim   
   and only 21 had to file motions to speed up their permits.   
   The motions did make them hop-to-it. But it also means that   
   Health Canada hopped to it in time for all the others who   
   did not need to file motions. I remember Luc reporting three   
   guys all processed in under 7 days.   
      
   But Luc had reported that someone had told him that they had   
   received their full term too. I think that that is   
   validation enough that someone at HC changed the policy of   
   registration upon doctor signing to registration upon   
   issuance.   
      
   So there's a good chance their Monday motion will be to   
   strike our Cause of Action B as mooted by the new policy.   
   And that new permits will be issued reflecting the time   
   restituted.   
      
   And they'll have to do it for all 90,000. But only you Gold   
   Stars will have a paper showing that you asked for what they   
   ceded. Won't that be a great trophy, of a win, not just a   
   try!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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