From: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
      
   TURMEL: Mark Delorme Winning Grow Permit Thru Intimidation?   
      
   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.fan.john-turmel   
      
   JCT: "Winning Through Intimidation" was one of the rare   
   books that really influenced myh life. His point is that   
   there are pricks out there who'll screw you even if it means   
   lying to your face. And how to prepare for them.   
      
   Maximum preparation is the key. And that they know you are   
   prepared and ready to stick it to them to the max if they   
   resist. Always trying to upgrade the attack and no hiding   
   it.   
      
   So when I got a message from Mark Delorme, I explained that   
   he could intimidate Health Canada without having to file a   
   Claim or Motion though he'd miss the ride and Gold Stars as   
   souvenirs. But he did the threat and I have to bet it's   
   going to win:   
      
   Mark Delorme   
   Mar. 1 at 1:28 p.m.   
      
   I happened to stumble upon your ACMPR grow permit processing   
   kit. I was wondering after the $2 statement of claim, what   
   would I be required on my part as far as arguing my point to   
   the courts#defense#judge.   
      
   John: Jeff Harris has been named Lead Plaintiff. So after   
   filing the claim for damages from "too long time" processing   
   and restitution of "Back Dated Time", there is nothing to do   
   unless you are waiting for your permit in which case you   
   file a motion for interim relief from a judge.   
      
   Mark: The 28 week processing for new permits is beyond   
   unacceptable and I wanted to speed up my process. I was more   
   than likely going to wait until the 4 week MMAR set   
   timeframe till I submitted a statement of claim as to allow   
   them some time to process (even though my mail probably   
   won't even have left the mailroom by then).   
   Can you please help! Mark   
      
   John: Donald Cote just filed after waiting 34 weeks. Now   
   that he filed, I bet he gets it by the 35th.   
      
   Mark: Awesome! Power to the people! HC thinks they can bully   
   us but you've helped provide tools for otherwise!   
   Should I wait until the approximate MMAR application   
   processing time of 4 weeks before submitting? I read that   
   they had identified in Heidi's case that she did not wait   
   long enough. Otherwise I will submit both right away!   
   Please advise,   
      
   John: Heidi was a renewal and she then waited 2 weeks. 4   
   weeks for new apps. Yes, give them the 4 weeks like the old   
   MMAR then join the chorus.   
   Remember, we're also going for the full term of prescription   
   like the old days too.   
   But do spread the word and watch my facebook page or blog:   
   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.fan.john-turmel   
   The Gold Star will end up being quite the trophy and there   
   are so many others like you who do not know what's going on.   
   Maybe after this weekend we'll make the news.   
      
   Mark: John, I'm just keeping you in the loop with my   
   applications.   
      
   I sent a very polite e-mail to HC (the correct cannabis HC   
   email) asking on the current status of my application. In my   
   e-mail I explicitly identified:   
      
   My application was shown as being received by health Canada   
   via registered mail;   
   The previous approximate wait times, touted before the court   
   as you so eloquently put it, for MMAR applications and   
   renewals.   
   I identified that on the 4 week mark of my receipt of   
   application, I will file a Statement of Claim.   
   I also identified that 1 week after this claim is filed, I   
   will file a Motion to see a judge.   
      
   I'm trying to see if they've finally got their heads in the   
   game and if a "threat" of legal action may be enough for   
   them or if I will have to go through with the Federal Court.   
   just an fyi   
      
   John: That's winning through intimidation.   
   They should hop before you file the Statement of Claim but   
   if they do not, just say that "waiting another week to file   
   the Motion" was a "bluff" and file it same day as the Claim.   
   Just so it has to get on the judge's desk! Claims are just   
   added to his class list, but motions have to be dismissed   
   and he gets to see the abuse.   
      
   Since they have to hop to it to escape the judge anyway, I   
   prefer people not give them time or escape.   
      
   But your letter should be so scary that they really should   
   hop. But if they think you are bluffing, then raise all in   
   with the motion too.   
      
   If you're near a capital city, both same day is easy. If   
   not, file online, call next day to pay your $2 and get a T-   
   number then add to motion, email and serve. They've started   
   accepting email service recently. I'm about to improve the   
   insructions page for Motions servicve.   
      
   JCT: I have to admit that if I was Health Canada, I would   
   take this letter very seriously, it is great intimidation.   
   They know it's serious and no bluff. And they can avoid all   
   the headaches if they hop to MMAR performance standard.   
      
   Let's see if we witness Winning Through Intimidation.   
   Stay tuned.   
      
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