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|    John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All    |
|    TURMEL: SQUEAKY Mark Delorme gets Grow P    |
|    17 May 18 08:09:25    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              JCT: Weeks ago, I wrote about Mark Delorme wanting to       threaten Health Canada with a Statement of Claim and motion       lubricate his grow permits passage through the process. From       my last post on him:              https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.fan.john-turmel/JFItlz7rw1w              TURMEL: Mark Delorme Winning Grow Permit Thru Intimidation?              Mark: The 28 week processing for new permits is beyond       unacceptable and I wanted to speed up my process. I was more       than likely going to wait until the 4 week MMAR set       timeframe till I submitted a statement of claim as to allow       them some time to process (even though my mail probably       won't even have left the mailroom by then).       Can you please help! Mark...              Mark: John, I'm just keeping you in the loop with my       applications.       I sent a very polite e-mail to HC (the correct cannabis HC       email) asking on the current status of my application. In my       e-mail I explicitly identified:       My application was shown as being received by health Canada       via registered mail;       The previous approximate wait times, touted before the court       as you so eloquently put it, for MMAR applications and       renewals.       I identified that on the 4 week mark of my receipt of       application, I will file a Statement of Claim.       I also identified that 1 week after this claim is filed, I       will file a Motion to see a judge.       I'm trying to see if they've finally got their heads in the       game and if a "threat" of legal action may be enough for       them or if I will have to go through with the Federal Court.       just an fyi       Now lets see 'em hop to it ...              John: That's winning through intimidation.       I have to admit that if I was Health Canada, I would take       this letter very seriously, it is great intimidation. They       know it's serious and no bluff. And they can avoid all the       headaches if they hop to MMAR performance standard.       Let's see if we witness Winning Through Intimidation.       Stay tuned.              JCT: Got some update:              Mark       To: johnturmel@yahoo.com       Apr. 3 at 3:08 p.m.       I havent gotten a reply to my email requesting a status       update and the future implications they will have to deal       with.       I was going to wait till April 5th to submit. My e-mail       identified that i would submit a statement of claim on April       4th but I figured, lets be nice and give them one extra day       in good faith since i've already provided them with       deadlines on my further actions. This speaks wonders because       to me, I gave them deadlines to which they didnt even       respond to, even though they knew my next steps, and I still       gave them +1 day. This really shows theyre positioning on       this subject IMO. Please let me know! Mark              John: Why be nice to guys with blood on their hands.       And don't you want some nice Gold Stars as souvenirs       Always request certified copies.              JCT: His efile shows he filed his Statement of Claim on       April 4, no grace for bad guys! They were warned.              Mark Delorme       May 15 at 11:01 a.m.       John, I have finally received my registration!       Quick recap:       March 7 - Registration received by HC registered mail       April 4 - Submitted Statement of Claim       May 14 - Registration received       Registration shows it was issued on May 9 - 8 weeks after       receiving my registration, 4 weeks after submitting a       Statement of Claim.              JCT: No record, Mar 7 to May 14 is over 9 weeks, 68 days to       process and April 4 to May 14 is 40 days, almost 6 weeks       from the Court claim. I don't think they have the time to       spend looking for your letter in the 6-month backlog in the       mail-room and only get them when they pop up.              Imagine that they send medical permits by snail-mail taking       5 days to get there! Another new ground of causing systemic       delay!!!              When the number of registrations went up every month and       December had 14,000, I'd expect January to have more than       14k, and February to have more than 14k. And if they told       Nathan Salandy that there was a 6 month backlog, that's 6       times 14k in the mail-room. 84,000 letters to be processed.              So with many tens of thousands of letters in the mail-room,       how are they going to find the ones of the people who file       claims?              In the case of Nicole Van Edig, they returned her renewal as       incomplete (RCMP misdated record check to 2016, not 17)              Nov 2 2017, Submitted 10 weeks in advance of the expiry.       Jan 3, 2018, Claim and Motion permit expiring Jan 10.       January 5, 2018, Renewal Application returned for DG check       Jan 8 2018, Renewal granted to moot the Jan 10 motion!!       So they issued her permit after having returned it to her.       Why would they grant the permit when the file had been       returned?              BENOIT COTE       March 8 2018, Health Canada had stalled 3 times for no       originals before they said wrong doctor.              Sent another doctor's letter       Mar 27 send Doctor letter of Mar 19              Apr 10 new Statement of Claim       Apr 20 Motion       Apr 23 Brown gave until May 2/9 for Crown response       Apr 24 rejection of not original Mar 19 doc received Apr 26       May 1 issued certificate to mooten Motion hearing.              So how do you explain them not dealing quickly with Donald       Cote who had asked the judge for expedition when he finally       did submit his proper doctor letter? Judge didn't deal with       it, just had to dismiss, and now it bites them? The guy who       gave them a nightmare is back and they're still giving him       the run-around? Then, they grant his permit after having       sent back his file. They must have really wanted to mooten       that hearing to grant the permit after having return the       file as incomplete!              So that's Nicole and Benoit whose permits are granted after       Health Canada had returned their files as incomplete! Why       didn't Health Canada just process them and do it right? Or,       what was stopping HC from just processing them quickly when       they could? Answer, they couldn't.              They must have been in the backlog, still may be.              So Mark Delorme got his permit 40 days after Statement of       Claim, under 6 weeks, no motion, and 68 days, under 10       weeks, to get his permit. And you have people still being       told the wait is 26 weeks! Har har har har har har. Those       bold enough to squeak get the oil to lubricate their       application through the process faster than those who won't       make the $2 Federal Court squeak.              But adding "System Delay by Snail-Mail" is another great       indictment. Luckily, we don't need to ask the court to amend       our Statement of Claim to bring up this extra ground. It's       not like asking for different relief which should be quite       specific. It's just another way they use of the many,       especially "didn't get here even if Canada post didn't       return it to you" and "not original signatures." Prove it w       when you don't have the originals any more? Har har har har              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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