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   John KingofthePaupers Turmel to All   
   TURMEL: SQUEAKY Mark Delorme gets Grow P   
   17 May 18 08:09:25   
   
   From: johnturmel@gmail.com   
      
   JCT: Weeks ago, I wrote about Mark Delorme wanting to   
   threaten Health Canada with a Statement of Claim and motion   
   lubricate his grow permits passage through the process. From   
   my last post on him:   
      
   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.fan.john-turmel/JFItlz7rw1w   
      
   TURMEL: Mark Delorme Winning Grow Permit Thru Intimidation?   
      
   Mark: The 28 week processing for new permits is beyond   
   unacceptable and I wanted to speed up my process. I was more   
   than likely going to wait until the 4 week MMAR set   
   timeframe till I submitted a statement of claim as to allow   
   them some time to process (even though my mail probably   
   won't even have left the mailroom by then).   
   Can you please help! Mark...   
      
   Mark: John, I'm just keeping you in the loop with my   
   applications.   
   I sent a very polite e-mail to HC (the correct cannabis HC   
   email) asking on the current status of my application. In my   
   e-mail I explicitly identified:   
   My application was shown as being received by health Canada   
   via registered mail;   
   The previous approximate wait times, touted before the court   
   as you so eloquently put it, for MMAR applications and   
   renewals.   
   I identified that on the 4 week mark of my receipt of   
   application, I will file a Statement of Claim.   
   I also identified that 1 week after this claim is filed, I   
   will file a Motion to see a judge.   
   I'm trying to see if they've finally got their heads in the   
   game and if a "threat" of legal action may be enough for   
   them or if I will have to go through with the Federal Court.   
   just an fyi   
   Now lets see 'em hop to it ...   
      
   John: That's winning through intimidation.   
   I have to admit that if I was Health Canada, I would take   
   this letter very seriously, it is great intimidation. They   
   know it's serious and no bluff. And they can avoid all the   
   headaches if they hop to MMAR performance standard.   
   Let's see if we witness Winning Through Intimidation.   
   Stay tuned.   
      
   JCT: Got some update:   
      
   Mark   
   To: johnturmel@yahoo.com   
   Apr. 3 at 3:08 p.m.   
   I havent gotten a reply to my email requesting a status   
   update and the future implications they will have to deal   
   with.   
   I was going to wait till April 5th to submit. My e-mail   
   identified that i would submit a statement of claim on April   
   4th but I figured, lets be nice and give them one extra day   
   in good faith since i've already provided them with   
   deadlines on my further actions. This speaks wonders because   
   to me, I gave them deadlines to which they didnt even   
   respond to, even though they knew my next steps, and I still   
   gave them +1 day. This really shows theyre positioning on   
   this subject IMO. Please let me know! Mark   
      
   John: Why be nice to guys with blood on their hands.   
   And don't you want some nice Gold Stars as souvenirs   
   Always request certified copies.   
      
   JCT: His efile shows he filed his Statement of Claim on   
   April 4, no grace for bad guys! They were warned.   
      
   Mark Delorme   
   May 15 at 11:01 a.m.   
   John, I have finally received my registration!   
   Quick recap:   
   March 7 - Registration received by HC registered mail   
   April 4 - Submitted Statement of Claim   
   May 14 - Registration received   
   Registration shows it was issued on May 9 - 8 weeks after   
   receiving my registration, 4 weeks after submitting a   
   Statement of Claim.   
      
   JCT: No record, Mar 7 to May 14 is over 9 weeks, 68 days to   
   process and April 4 to May 14 is 40 days, almost 6 weeks   
   from the Court claim. I don't think they have the time to   
   spend looking for your letter in the 6-month backlog in the   
   mail-room and only get them when they pop up.   
      
   Imagine that they send medical permits by snail-mail taking   
   5 days to get there! Another new ground of causing systemic   
   delay!!!   
      
   When the number of registrations went up every month and   
   December had 14,000, I'd expect January to have more than   
   14k, and February to have more than 14k. And if they told   
   Nathan Salandy that there was a 6 month backlog, that's 6   
   times 14k in the mail-room. 84,000 letters to be processed.   
      
   So with many tens of thousands of letters in the mail-room,   
   how are they going to find the ones of the people who file   
   claims?   
      
   In the case of Nicole Van Edig, they returned her renewal as   
   incomplete (RCMP misdated record check to 2016, not 17)   
      
   Nov 2 2017, Submitted 10 weeks in advance of the expiry.   
   Jan 3, 2018, Claim and Motion permit expiring Jan 10.   
   January 5, 2018, Renewal Application returned for DG check   
   Jan 8 2018, Renewal granted to moot the Jan 10 motion!!   
   So they issued her permit after having returned it to her.   
   Why would they grant the permit when the file had been   
   returned?   
      
   BENOIT COTE   
   March 8 2018, Health Canada had stalled 3 times for no   
   originals before they said wrong doctor.   
      
   Sent another doctor's letter   
   Mar 27 send Doctor letter of Mar 19   
      
   Apr 10 new Statement of Claim   
   Apr 20 Motion   
   Apr 23 Brown gave until May 2/9 for Crown response   
   Apr 24 rejection of not original Mar 19 doc received Apr 26   
   May 1 issued certificate to mooten Motion hearing.   
      
   So how do you explain them not dealing quickly with Donald   
   Cote who had asked the judge for expedition when he finally   
   did submit his proper doctor letter? Judge didn't deal with   
   it, just had to dismiss, and now it bites them? The guy who   
   gave them a nightmare is back and they're still giving him   
   the run-around? Then, they grant his permit after having   
   sent back his file. They must have really wanted to mooten   
   that hearing to grant the permit after having return the   
   file as incomplete!   
      
   So that's Nicole and Benoit whose permits are granted after   
   Health Canada had returned their files as incomplete! Why   
   didn't Health Canada just process them and do it right? Or,   
   what was stopping HC from just processing them quickly when   
   they could? Answer, they couldn't.   
      
   They must have been in the backlog, still may be.   
      
   So Mark Delorme got his permit 40 days after Statement of   
   Claim, under 6 weeks, no motion, and 68 days, under 10   
   weeks, to get his permit. And you have people still being   
   told the wait is 26 weeks! Har har har har har har. Those   
   bold enough to squeak get the oil to lubricate their   
   application through the process faster than those who won't   
   make the $2 Federal Court squeak.   
      
   But adding "System Delay by Snail-Mail" is another great   
   indictment. Luckily, we don't need to ask the court to amend   
   our Statement of Claim to bring up this extra ground. It's   
   not like asking for different relief which should be quite   
   specific. It's just another way they use of the many,   
   especially "didn't get here even if Canada post didn't   
   return it to you" and "not original signatures." Prove it w   
   when you don't have the originals any more? Har har har har   
      
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