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|    TURMEL: Jeff Harris seeks amended permit    |
|    02 Jun 18 09:13:15    |
      From: johnturmel@gmail.com              TURMEL: Jeff Harris seeks amended permit after 13 weeks              JCT: Jeff Harris, Lead Plaintiff T-1379-17 of those claiming       it took too long to process grow permits has now had the       chance to file another claim T-881-18 that 3 months is too       long to process an amendment.              On March 7, he filed his application to amend his       Registration Certificate.              On May 10, after waiting 9 weeks, he filed a Statement of       Claim.              On May 22, after waiting another 2 weeks, he filed a Motion       to see Judge Brown for interim relief until it arrives.              On May 30 2018, Judge Brown Directed:        "The Defendant is to serve and file responding motion        material by Thursday June 7 2018 and the Plaintiff is to        serve and file his reply by Thursday June 14 2018."              So on June 7, the Crown responds explaining why it has taken       3 months, 13 weeks, to amend his permit when under the MMAR       it used to take 2 weeks. Then Jeff can file a Reply on June       14. And then the judge can book the hearing.              In past cases, Health Canada got the permit to the applicant       in time to be able to respond that the issue is mooted now       that his permit has been received. They get to duck       explaining why it took 3 months.              Best of all, in the Crown's main motion to dismiss       everyone's claims as laughable, Judge Brown had ordered       Wendy Wright to file Jeff's March 5 Amended Statement of       Claim T-1379-17 which she had left out and ordered       an outdated Claim by Jason Allman which she had included to       be replaced with a later "representative" claim that       mentioned Cause of Action B: Restitution of short time.              Instead of using a latest claim without the latest changes, she       used January and February claims before Jeff's Mar 5 claim.       So none of the changes made after Jeff's claim was amended       were included, not representative of later filers at all.              I knew the claim for restitution of the ripped-off time in       later claims would apply to earlier claims but to ensure       Lead Plaintiff and not some newbie would make the arguments       on the whole thing we had to ask the court to let him a)       adopt the later claim with Cause B, or b) to amend his claim       to include Cause B but avoid making all plaintiffs file       amended claims too; c) abandon his old claim and file a new       one. Since the Crown had to deal with Cause B with later       plaintiffs, I found it lunatic that they'd object to Jeff       being able to adopt or amend to the later model when he       could just abandon and refile! Har har har.              But they tried to avoid facing with Jeff what they'd have to       face with later plaintiffs anyway. So that took a Motion,       Response, Reply, before Judge Brown let Jeff amend to the       later model but deem the others amended too. That's the       reason the Allman claim had to rejected, it was an early       model that had been deemed upgraded to Cause B. So it       couldn't remain in the Record.              But while that argument was going on, I had noted some good       points made by the Crown in earlier arguments about things I       should have included:       a) Right to Liberty and Security were also engaged, not just       Life; so they were added to later claims;       b) site rent and expenses not claimed, so they were added;       c) due process wasn't followed so principles of Fundamental       Justice violated were added.              So those three legal requirements she had argued were       missing from Jeff Harris' Amended Claim are added to the       later claims!              In March I chortled when I read the Health Canada Notice       that said the S.56 motions were to allay the concerns of       those whose time had been reduced and whose permits were       going to be from when the doctor "authorized," past tense.       She had to produce the S.56 Orders that she said had settled       their claims so I was in no rush to find them, expecting the       win. I really expected restitution, cheap and their bad gets       forgotten. I didn't appreciate how Kent Truman's clock was       running out if she wasn't telling the truth about what the       orders did.              Upon reviewing their Motion Record, I realized that the S.56       Orders did not change the start of the period from when the       doctor signed to when issued, as she told the Court. The       Crown was out and out lying. Kent Truman's Reply explains       why I was misled into thinking that the ripped-off were       going to get the full term "authorized" by the doctor.       Though they used past tense, Wendy made clear it really       meant full term for future registrants from when the doctor       "authorizes." Not his "authorized" medical document.              So I went digging. She'd said S.178(2) requires the period       start when the doctor signs. It did not, it only said:        (h) the expiry date of the registration, which must        correspond to the end of the period of validity of the        medical document supporting the registration, as        determined in accordance with subsection 8(3);              So S.178 doesn't deal with start date, it deals with expiry       date. But in accordance with S.8(3) which might have the       doctor date requirement.              Checking S.8(3):        8(3) A medical document is valid for the period of use        specified in it.              So it stops there without saying a word about starting when       the doctor signs! She sent the court up a dead end. So if       she didn't give us the right section, which section does say       the period starts when the doctor signs?              I did a search for all occurrences of "medical document"       until I hit Section 8(s) that says the period of use:        (b) begins on the day on which the medical document is        signed by the practitioner.              So it's there but Wendy didn't cite the right statute for       the court. Wonder why? Before now, we didn't know the       statute where programmer got the instruction to start on       doctor date, we just asked the Court to make them return to       the old MMAR S.33 for date of issuance. Now we've found the       statute causing the problem which the court must strike: we       must ask to have S.8(2)(b) struck. So having identified the       errant statute, I made a fourth addition to strike the       S.8.2b requirement the period start when doctor signs.              We file our Response to her Supplementary Motion Record to       strike our claims as laughable on June 6 (they reply June       13) but they must Respond on June 7 to explain why Jeff's       amendment is taking laughable 3 months (he replies June 14).              On the day before I was going to upload the latest version,       Jeff called to say that after 9 weeks, he'd filed an on-line       Statement of Claim that the amendment was taking too long.       He would pay his $2 in the morning. I told him to abort that       claim, not pay the $2, call it off and he could file the       latest claim of all plaintiffs I had just finished updating.              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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